I nominate myself for moderator of Chris, aka cantor On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I nominate myself for moderator of Dante, Ragi and all the GPL hate > that might flout in ::Grin:: > > Chris... > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > no. stop it. don't encourage him > > :p > > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Ragi Y. Burhum <r...@burhum.com> wrote: > >> > >> I nominate Roger for Headmaster-President-Lord Moderator to moderate > them > >> all! :) > >> > >>> > >>> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 20:57:25 -0800 > >>> From: Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com> > >>> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] Creating a structure for SocalLinux.org - > >>> asking all members to read > >>> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org> > >>> > >>> +1 to Roger being a hippie > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dino K <socalli...@cloudcomp.info> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > I have read your charter and think it's a great start! > >>> > > >>> > Roger's just a hippie, that's all. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:01 PM, David Kaiser <dkai...@cdk.com> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Happy New Year Everyone! > >>> >> > >>> >> January 1, 2010 > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> For the first message of the new year, I wanted to take a moment to > >>> >> reflect on the great 5.5 years we have been here and say thanks for > >>> >> everyone for making SocalLinux.org such a great community. I feel > >>> >> that > >>> >> we have a great and diverse group and I really appreciate everyone > >>> >> that > >>> >> participates and the contributions of each and every person in our > >>> >> group. > >>> >> > >>> >> I also wanted to take this opportunity to share some thoughts I have > >>> >> had > >>> >> about the design of the group. > >>> >> > >>> >> Since we started this group (originally called 909linux.org), we > have > >>> >> tried to focus as much as possible on creating and maintaining an > >>> >> environment that is open, allows anyone to contribute and speak > their > >>> >> opinion, but along with that comes the need to do things such as > >>> >> control > >>> >> the tone of the discussion at times so that members of the group are > >>> >> not > >>> >> offended by any particular individual. It is a fine balancing act > >>> >> to > >>> >> encourage everyone to speak their mind ? but still ask everyone to > be > >>> >> respectful of others. I want to keep that approach in the future. > >>> >> (Given the low number of conflicts we have, I think we have been > >>> >> successful in this.) > >>> >> > >>> >> When we started, we decided not to have a formalized structure, > (where > >>> >> members at the time did not want to have cycles of elections and > >>> >> people > >>> >> being nominated as a president, etc.) so we have had a completely > >>> >> informal and unstructured group this entire time. Since I am the > >>> >> [genius/sucker: pick one] who registered the domain and maintains > the > >>> >> computing infrastructure for the mailing list (and our 1 web page!) > I > >>> >> want to bring this up and explain some of my thoughts, and also I > >>> >> think > >>> >> it would be useful for me to get feedback about this organization. > >>> >> > >>> >> While I don't mind being in the position of being the domain owner, > I > >>> >> want to make sure that the workings of the group are actually the > >>> >> responsibility of the group. > >>> >> > >>> >> I am going to be looking for a way that there is a ?moderator group? > >>> >> (or > >>> >> some title) that we have a number of people that are aware of and > >>> >> publicly making decisions that are for the benefit of the group. > >>> >> While > >>> >> I have never actually unsubscribed or banned any person from > >>> >> participating (mailing list, irc channel, or in person), I have had > to > >>> >> enable some brief periods of moderation to the mailing list while > >>> >> personal issues were resolved. I feel that this and other duties > >>> >> should > >>> >> be the responsibility of a group of people, and that this group > should > >>> >> somehow be enabled or voted on by the members. > >>> >> > >>> >> To start with, just having multiple people be the moderators of the > >>> >> mailing list, and also having a way for the group members to > maintain > >>> >> the web site (a task which I completely FAIL at doing in case you > have > >>> >> noticed). This will go a long ways to achieving the goal of not > having > >>> >> myself be singularly responsible for this and ensure that things are > >>> >> done for the benefit of everyone. These things are on my agenda for > >>> >> the > >>> >> coming months and I will be making more announcements about this > soon. > >>> >> > >>> >> I am going to be enlisting everyone's feedback and working to > >>> >> establish > >>> >> the following: > >>> >> - an official charter which details the group structure > >>> >> - a group of moderators > >>> >> - an additional administrator to help me maintain the site (likely > to > >>> >> be easier to do once we install a proper web management system of > some > >>> >> sort) > >>> >> > >>> >> For now, I am asking everyone to take a moment and read what I have > >>> >> proposed for a Charter. > >>> >> > >>> >> The proposed charter is located at http://socallinux.org/charter > >>> >> > >>> >> This will be something which is only a 'read and understand' option > >>> >> for > >>> >> now. If conditions demand, then in the future we can make this be > >>> >> something which has to be agreed upon before approval of signing-up > to > >>> >> the mailing list or other activities. > >>> >> > >>> >> While I have started this Charter, I did so by following the example > >>> >> set > >>> >> by many other successful Linux User Groups. Ultimately, I expect > the > >>> >> members of this group to add to this list with their own ideas > because > >>> >> this isn't just something I manage alone. We all need to share the > >>> >> responsibility of keeping things running smoothly, so I am asking > this > >>> >> conversation in an open forum like this. > >>> >> > >>> >> Please reply to this thread with comments and suggested additions. > I > >>> >> know the charter as it is currently written needs some help, but I > >>> >> need > >>> >> your help in keeping the group self-moderated and running smoothly > so > >>> >> I > >>> >> strongly believe this is something we need to do. Specifically > >>> >> seeking > >>> >> comments on Articles 6, 7, & 8, as I have not yet developed a policy > >>> >> on > >>> >> how moderators and administrators are selected and how the voting > >>> >> process might work. > >>> >> > >>> >> Thanks again for making SocalLinux.org a great community, and thanks > >>> >> in > >>> >> advance for taking the time to read this and the charter document > idea > >>> >> I've posted. > >>> >> > >>> >> Looking forward to 2010! > >>> >> > >>> >> Regards, > >>> >> David > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> LinuxUsers mailing list > >>> >> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > >>> >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> LinuxUsers mailing list > >> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LinuxUsers mailing list > > LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > > > > > > > -- > "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to > be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." > -Roger Penrose > _______________________________________________ > LinuxUsers mailing list > LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >
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