2nd to rog as "Headmaster-President-Lord Moderator", especially if that is the name we put on the website.
Chris... On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com> wrote: > I nominate myself for moderator of Dante, Ragi and all the GPL hate > that might flout in ::Grin:: > > Chris... > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: >> no. stop it. don't encourage him >> :p >> >> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Ragi Y. Burhum <r...@burhum.com> wrote: >>> >>> I nominate Roger for Headmaster-President-Lord Moderator to moderate them >>> all! :) >>> >>>> >>>> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 20:57:25 -0800 >>>> From: Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] Creating a structure for SocalLinux.org - >>>> asking all members to read >>>> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org> >>>> >>>> +1 to Roger being a hippie >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dino K <socalli...@cloudcomp.info> wrote: >>>> >>>> > I have read your charter and think it's a great start! >>>> > >>>> > Roger's just a hippie, that's all. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:01 PM, David Kaiser <dkai...@cdk.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Happy New Year Everyone! >>>> >> >>>> >> January 1, 2010 >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> For the first message of the new year, I wanted to take a moment to >>>> >> reflect on the great 5.5 years we have been here and say thanks for >>>> >> everyone for making SocalLinux.org such a great community. I feel >>>> >> that >>>> >> we have a great and diverse group and I really appreciate everyone >>>> >> that >>>> >> participates and the contributions of each and every person in our >>>> >> group. >>>> >> >>>> >> I also wanted to take this opportunity to share some thoughts I have >>>> >> had >>>> >> about the design of the group. >>>> >> >>>> >> Since we started this group (originally called 909linux.org), we have >>>> >> tried to focus as much as possible on creating and maintaining an >>>> >> environment that is open, allows anyone to contribute and speak their >>>> >> opinion, but along with that comes the need to do things such as >>>> >> control >>>> >> the tone of the discussion at times so that members of the group are >>>> >> not >>>> >> offended by any particular individual. It is a fine balancing act >>>> >> to >>>> >> encourage everyone to speak their mind ? but still ask everyone to be >>>> >> respectful of others. I want to keep that approach in the future. >>>> >> (Given the low number of conflicts we have, I think we have been >>>> >> successful in this.) >>>> >> >>>> >> When we started, we decided not to have a formalized structure, (where >>>> >> members at the time did not want to have cycles of elections and >>>> >> people >>>> >> being nominated as a president, etc.) so we have had a completely >>>> >> informal and unstructured group this entire time. Since I am the >>>> >> [genius/sucker: pick one] who registered the domain and maintains the >>>> >> computing infrastructure for the mailing list (and our 1 web page!) I >>>> >> want to bring this up and explain some of my thoughts, and also I >>>> >> think >>>> >> it would be useful for me to get feedback about this organization. >>>> >> >>>> >> While I don't mind being in the position of being the domain owner, I >>>> >> want to make sure that the workings of the group are actually the >>>> >> responsibility of the group. >>>> >> >>>> >> I am going to be looking for a way that there is a ?moderator group? >>>> >> (or >>>> >> some title) that we have a number of people that are aware of and >>>> >> publicly making decisions that are for the benefit of the group. >>>> >> While >>>> >> I have never actually unsubscribed or banned any person from >>>> >> participating (mailing list, irc channel, or in person), I have had to >>>> >> enable some brief periods of moderation to the mailing list while >>>> >> personal issues were resolved. I feel that this and other duties >>>> >> should >>>> >> be the responsibility of a group of people, and that this group should >>>> >> somehow be enabled or voted on by the members. >>>> >> >>>> >> To start with, just having multiple people be the moderators of the >>>> >> mailing list, and also having a way for the group members to maintain >>>> >> the web site (a task which I completely FAIL at doing in case you have >>>> >> noticed). This will go a long ways to achieving the goal of not having >>>> >> myself be singularly responsible for this and ensure that things are >>>> >> done for the benefit of everyone. These things are on my agenda for >>>> >> the >>>> >> coming months and I will be making more announcements about this soon. >>>> >> >>>> >> I am going to be enlisting everyone's feedback and working to >>>> >> establish >>>> >> the following: >>>> >> - an official charter which details the group structure >>>> >> - a group of moderators >>>> >> - an additional administrator to help me maintain the site (likely to >>>> >> be easier to do once we install a proper web management system of some >>>> >> sort) >>>> >> >>>> >> For now, I am asking everyone to take a moment and read what I have >>>> >> proposed for a Charter. >>>> >> >>>> >> The proposed charter is located at http://socallinux.org/charter >>>> >> >>>> >> This will be something which is only a 'read and understand' option >>>> >> for >>>> >> now. If conditions demand, then in the future we can make this be >>>> >> something which has to be agreed upon before approval of signing-up to >>>> >> the mailing list or other activities. >>>> >> >>>> >> While I have started this Charter, I did so by following the example >>>> >> set >>>> >> by many other successful Linux User Groups. Ultimately, I expect the >>>> >> members of this group to add to this list with their own ideas because >>>> >> this isn't just something I manage alone. We all need to share the >>>> >> responsibility of keeping things running smoothly, so I am asking this >>>> >> conversation in an open forum like this. >>>> >> >>>> >> Please reply to this thread with comments and suggested additions. I >>>> >> know the charter as it is currently written needs some help, but I >>>> >> need >>>> >> your help in keeping the group self-moderated and running smoothly so >>>> >> I >>>> >> strongly believe this is something we need to do. Specifically >>>> >> seeking >>>> >> comments on Articles 6, 7, & 8, as I have not yet developed a policy >>>> >> on >>>> >> how moderators and administrators are selected and how the voting >>>> >> process might work. >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks again for making SocalLinux.org a great community, and thanks >>>> >> in >>>> >> advance for taking the time to read this and the charter document idea >>>> >> I've posted. >>>> >> >>>> >> Looking forward to 2010! >>>> >> >>>> >> Regards, >>>> >> David >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> LinuxUsers mailing list >>>> >> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >>>> >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> LinuxUsers mailing list >>> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >>> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LinuxUsers mailing list >> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >> >> > > > > -- > "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to > be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." > -Roger Penrose > -- "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." -Roger Penrose _______________________________________________ LinuxUsers mailing list LinuxUsers@socallinux.org http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers