2nd to rog as "Headmaster-President-Lord Moderator", especially if
that is the name we put on the website.

Chris...

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I nominate myself for moderator of Dante, Ragi and all the GPL hate
> that might flout in ::Grin::
>
> Chris...
>
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> no. stop it. don't encourage him
>> :p
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Ragi Y. Burhum <r...@burhum.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I nominate Roger for Headmaster-President-Lord Moderator to moderate them
>>> all! :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 20:57:25 -0800
>>>> From: Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] Creating a structure for SocalLinux.org -
>>>>        asking  all members to read
>>>> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org>
>>>>
>>>> +1 to Roger being a hippie
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dino K <socalli...@cloudcomp.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I have read your charter and think it's a great start!
>>>> >
>>>> > Roger's just a hippie, that's all.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:01 PM, David Kaiser <dkai...@cdk.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Happy New Year Everyone!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>                                                  January 1, 2010
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> For the first message of the new year, I wanted to take a moment to
>>>> >> reflect on the great 5.5 years we have been here and say thanks for
>>>> >> everyone for making SocalLinux.org such a great community.   I feel
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> we have a great and diverse group and I really appreciate everyone
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> participates and the contributions of each and every person in our
>>>> >> group.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I also wanted to take this opportunity to share some thoughts I have
>>>> >> had
>>>> >> about the design of the group.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Since we started this group (originally called 909linux.org), we have
>>>> >> tried to focus as much as possible on creating and maintaining an
>>>> >> environment that is open, allows anyone to contribute and speak their
>>>> >> opinion, but along with that comes the need to do things such as
>>>> >> control
>>>> >> the tone of the discussion at times so that members of the group are
>>>> >> not
>>>> >> offended by any particular individual.    It is a fine balancing act
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> encourage everyone to speak their mind ? but still ask everyone to be
>>>> >> respectful of others.  I want to keep that approach in the future.
>>>> >> (Given the low number of conflicts we have, I think we have been
>>>> >> successful in this.)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> When we started, we decided not to have a formalized structure, (where
>>>> >> members at the time did not want to have cycles of elections and
>>>> >> people
>>>> >> being nominated as a president, etc.) so we have had a completely
>>>> >> informal and unstructured group this entire time. Since I am the
>>>> >> [genius/sucker: pick one] who registered the domain and maintains the
>>>> >> computing infrastructure for the mailing list (and our 1 web page!) I
>>>> >> want to bring this up and explain some of my thoughts, and also I
>>>> >> think
>>>> >> it would be useful for me to get feedback about this organization.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> While I don't mind being in the position of being the domain owner, I
>>>> >> want to make sure that the workings of the group are actually the
>>>> >> responsibility of the group.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I am going to be looking for a way that there is a ?moderator group?
>>>> >> (or
>>>> >> some title) that we have a number of people that are aware of and
>>>> >> publicly making decisions that are for the benefit of the group.
>>>> >>  While
>>>> >> I have never actually unsubscribed or banned any person from
>>>> >> participating (mailing list, irc channel, or in person), I have had to
>>>> >> enable some brief periods of moderation to the mailing list while
>>>> >> personal issues were resolved.  I feel that this and other duties
>>>> >> should
>>>> >> be the responsibility of a group of people, and that this group should
>>>> >> somehow be enabled or voted on by the members.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> To start with, just having multiple people be the moderators of the
>>>> >> mailing list, and also having a way for the group members to maintain
>>>> >> the web site (a task which I completely FAIL at doing in case you have
>>>> >> noticed). This will go a long ways to achieving the goal of not having
>>>> >> myself be singularly responsible for this and ensure that things are
>>>> >> done for the benefit of everyone.  These things are on my agenda for
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> coming months and I will be making more announcements about this soon.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I am going to be enlisting everyone's feedback and working to
>>>> >> establish
>>>> >> the following:
>>>> >>  - an official charter which details the group structure
>>>> >>  - a group of moderators
>>>> >>  - an additional administrator to help me maintain the site (likely to
>>>> >> be easier to do once we install a proper web management system of some
>>>> >> sort)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> For now, I am asking everyone to take a moment and read what I have
>>>> >> proposed for a Charter.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The proposed charter is located at http://socallinux.org/charter
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This will be something which is only a 'read and understand' option
>>>> >> for
>>>> >> now.  If conditions demand, then in the future we can make this be
>>>> >> something which has to be agreed upon before approval of signing-up to
>>>> >> the mailing list or other activities.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> While I have started this Charter, I did so by following the example
>>>> >> set
>>>> >> by many other successful Linux User Groups.  Ultimately, I expect the
>>>> >> members of this group to add to this list with their own ideas because
>>>> >> this isn't just something I manage alone.  We all need to share the
>>>> >> responsibility of keeping things running smoothly, so I am asking this
>>>> >> conversation in an open forum like this.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Please reply to this thread with comments and suggested additions.  I
>>>> >> know the charter as it is currently written needs some help, but I
>>>> >> need
>>>> >> your help in keeping the group self-moderated and running smoothly so
>>>> >> I
>>>> >> strongly believe this is something we need to do.  Specifically
>>>> >> seeking
>>>> >> comments on Articles 6, 7, & 8, as I have not yet developed a policy
>>>> >> on
>>>> >> how moderators and administrators are selected and how the voting
>>>> >> process might work.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks again for making SocalLinux.org a great community, and thanks
>>>> >> in
>>>> >> advance for taking the time to read this and the charter document idea
>>>> >> I've posted.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Looking forward to 2010!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Regards,
>>>> >> David
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>>>> >
>>>> >
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