"I nominate myself for moderator of Chris, aka cantor" http://bit.ly/6RWX8u for repete....
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > I nominate myself for moderator of Chris, aka cantor > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I nominate myself for moderator of Dante, Ragi and all the GPL hate >> that might flout in ::Grin:: >> >> Chris... >> >> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > no. stop it. don't encourage him >> > :p >> > >> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Ragi Y. Burhum <r...@burhum.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I nominate Roger for Headmaster-President-Lord Moderator to moderate >> >> them >> >> all! :) >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 20:57:25 -0800 >> >>> From: Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com> >> >>> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] Creating a structure for SocalLinux.org - >> >>> asking all members to read >> >>> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org> >> >>> >> >>> +1 to Roger being a hippie >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dino K <socalli...@cloudcomp.info> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > I have read your charter and think it's a great start! >> >>> > >> >>> > Roger's just a hippie, that's all. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:01 PM, David Kaiser <dkai...@cdk.com> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> Happy New Year Everyone! >> >>> >> >> >>> >> January 1, 2010 >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> For the first message of the new year, I wanted to take a moment to >> >>> >> reflect on the great 5.5 years we have been here and say thanks for >> >>> >> everyone for making SocalLinux.org such a great community. I feel >> >>> >> that >> >>> >> we have a great and diverse group and I really appreciate everyone >> >>> >> that >> >>> >> participates and the contributions of each and every person in our >> >>> >> group. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I also wanted to take this opportunity to share some thoughts I >> >>> >> have >> >>> >> had >> >>> >> about the design of the group. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Since we started this group (originally called 909linux.org), we >> >>> >> have >> >>> >> tried to focus as much as possible on creating and maintaining an >> >>> >> environment that is open, allows anyone to contribute and speak >> >>> >> their >> >>> >> opinion, but along with that comes the need to do things such as >> >>> >> control >> >>> >> the tone of the discussion at times so that members of the group >> >>> >> are >> >>> >> not >> >>> >> offended by any particular individual. It is a fine balancing >> >>> >> act >> >>> >> to >> >>> >> encourage everyone to speak their mind ? but still ask everyone to >> >>> >> be >> >>> >> respectful of others. I want to keep that approach in the future. >> >>> >> (Given the low number of conflicts we have, I think we have been >> >>> >> successful in this.) >> >>> >> >> >>> >> When we started, we decided not to have a formalized structure, >> >>> >> (where >> >>> >> members at the time did not want to have cycles of elections and >> >>> >> people >> >>> >> being nominated as a president, etc.) so we have had a completely >> >>> >> informal and unstructured group this entire time. Since I am the >> >>> >> [genius/sucker: pick one] who registered the domain and maintains >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> computing infrastructure for the mailing list (and our 1 web page!) >> >>> >> I >> >>> >> want to bring this up and explain some of my thoughts, and also I >> >>> >> think >> >>> >> it would be useful for me to get feedback about this organization. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> While I don't mind being in the position of being the domain owner, >> >>> >> I >> >>> >> want to make sure that the workings of the group are actually the >> >>> >> responsibility of the group. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I am going to be looking for a way that there is a ?moderator >> >>> >> group? >> >>> >> (or >> >>> >> some title) that we have a number of people that are aware of and >> >>> >> publicly making decisions that are for the benefit of the group. >> >>> >> While >> >>> >> I have never actually unsubscribed or banned any person from >> >>> >> participating (mailing list, irc channel, or in person), I have had >> >>> >> to >> >>> >> enable some brief periods of moderation to the mailing list while >> >>> >> personal issues were resolved. I feel that this and other duties >> >>> >> should >> >>> >> be the responsibility of a group of people, and that this group >> >>> >> should >> >>> >> somehow be enabled or voted on by the members. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> To start with, just having multiple people be the moderators of the >> >>> >> mailing list, and also having a way for the group members to >> >>> >> maintain >> >>> >> the web site (a task which I completely FAIL at doing in case you >> >>> >> have >> >>> >> noticed). This will go a long ways to achieving the goal of not >> >>> >> having >> >>> >> myself be singularly responsible for this and ensure that things >> >>> >> are >> >>> >> done for the benefit of everyone. These things are on my agenda >> >>> >> for >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> coming months and I will be making more announcements about this >> >>> >> soon. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I am going to be enlisting everyone's feedback and working to >> >>> >> establish >> >>> >> the following: >> >>> >> - an official charter which details the group structure >> >>> >> - a group of moderators >> >>> >> - an additional administrator to help me maintain the site (likely >> >>> >> to >> >>> >> be easier to do once we install a proper web management system of >> >>> >> some >> >>> >> sort) >> >>> >> >> >>> >> For now, I am asking everyone to take a moment and read what I have >> >>> >> proposed for a Charter. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> The proposed charter is located at http://socallinux.org/charter >> >>> >> >> >>> >> This will be something which is only a 'read and understand' option >> >>> >> for >> >>> >> now. If conditions demand, then in the future we can make this be >> >>> >> something which has to be agreed upon before approval of signing-up >> >>> >> to >> >>> >> the mailing list or other activities. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> While I have started this Charter, I did so by following the >> >>> >> example >> >>> >> set >> >>> >> by many other successful Linux User Groups. Ultimately, I expect >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> members of this group to add to this list with their own ideas >> >>> >> because >> >>> >> this isn't just something I manage alone. We all need to share the >> >>> >> responsibility of keeping things running smoothly, so I am asking >> >>> >> this >> >>> >> conversation in an open forum like this. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Please reply to this thread with comments and suggested additions. >> >>> >> I >> >>> >> know the charter as it is currently written needs some help, but I >> >>> >> need >> >>> >> your help in keeping the group self-moderated and running smoothly >> >>> >> so >> >>> >> I >> >>> >> strongly believe this is something we need to do. Specifically >> >>> >> seeking >> >>> >> comments on Articles 6, 7, & 8, as I have not yet developed a >> >>> >> policy >> >>> >> on >> >>> >> how moderators and administrators are selected and how the voting >> >>> >> process might work. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Thanks again for making SocalLinux.org a great community, and >> >>> >> thanks >> >>> >> in >> >>> >> advance for taking the time to read this and the charter document >> >>> >> idea >> >>> >> I've posted. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Looking forward to 2010! >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Regards, >> >>> >> David >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> LinuxUsers mailing list >> >>> >> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >> >>> >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> LinuxUsers mailing list >> >> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >> >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > LinuxUsers mailing list >> > LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >> > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to >> be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." >> -Roger Penrose >> _______________________________________________ >> LinuxUsers mailing list >> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > > _______________________________________________ > LinuxUsers mailing list > LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > -- "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." -Roger Penrose _______________________________________________ LinuxUsers mailing list LinuxUsers@socallinux.org http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers
