DAMNIT!!! :p haha
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com> wrote: > "I nominate myself for moderator of Chris, aka cantor" > > http://bit.ly/6RWX8u for repete.... > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I nominate myself for moderator of Chris, aka cantor > > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I nominate myself for moderator of Dante, Ragi and all the GPL hate > >> that might flout in ::Grin:: > >> > >> Chris... > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > no. stop it. don't encourage him > >> > :p > >> > > >> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Ragi Y. Burhum <r...@burhum.com> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I nominate Roger for Headmaster-President-Lord Moderator to moderate > >> >> them > >> >> all! :) > >> >> > >> >>> > >> >>> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 20:57:25 -0800 > >> >>> From: Peter Manis <peter.ma...@gmail.com> > >> >>> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] Creating a structure for SocalLinux.org - > >> >>> asking all members to read > >> >>> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org> > >> >>> > >> >>> +1 to Roger being a hippie > >> >>> > >> >>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dino K <socalli...@cloudcomp.info> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > I have read your charter and think it's a great start! > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Roger's just a hippie, that's all. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:01 PM, David Kaiser <dkai...@cdk.com> > >> >>> > wrote: > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> Happy New Year Everyone! > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> January 1, 2010 > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> For the first message of the new year, I wanted to take a moment > to > >> >>> >> reflect on the great 5.5 years we have been here and say thanks > for > >> >>> >> everyone for making SocalLinux.org such a great community. I > feel > >> >>> >> that > >> >>> >> we have a great and diverse group and I really appreciate > everyone > >> >>> >> that > >> >>> >> participates and the contributions of each and every person in > our > >> >>> >> group. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I also wanted to take this opportunity to share some thoughts I > >> >>> >> have > >> >>> >> had > >> >>> >> about the design of the group. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Since we started this group (originally called 909linux.org), we > >> >>> >> have > >> >>> >> tried to focus as much as possible on creating and maintaining an > >> >>> >> environment that is open, allows anyone to contribute and speak > >> >>> >> their > >> >>> >> opinion, but along with that comes the need to do things such as > >> >>> >> control > >> >>> >> the tone of the discussion at times so that members of the group > >> >>> >> are > >> >>> >> not > >> >>> >> offended by any particular individual. It is a fine balancing > >> >>> >> act > >> >>> >> to > >> >>> >> encourage everyone to speak their mind ? but still ask everyone > to > >> >>> >> be > >> >>> >> respectful of others. I want to keep that approach in the > future. > >> >>> >> (Given the low number of conflicts we have, I think we have been > >> >>> >> successful in this.) > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> When we started, we decided not to have a formalized structure, > >> >>> >> (where > >> >>> >> members at the time did not want to have cycles of elections and > >> >>> >> people > >> >>> >> being nominated as a president, etc.) so we have had a completely > >> >>> >> informal and unstructured group this entire time. Since I am the > >> >>> >> [genius/sucker: pick one] who registered the domain and maintains > >> >>> >> the > >> >>> >> computing infrastructure for the mailing list (and our 1 web > page!) > >> >>> >> I > >> >>> >> want to bring this up and explain some of my thoughts, and also I > >> >>> >> think > >> >>> >> it would be useful for me to get feedback about this > organization. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> While I don't mind being in the position of being the domain > owner, > >> >>> >> I > >> >>> >> want to make sure that the workings of the group are actually the > >> >>> >> responsibility of the group. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I am going to be looking for a way that there is a ?moderator > >> >>> >> group? > >> >>> >> (or > >> >>> >> some title) that we have a number of people that are aware of and > >> >>> >> publicly making decisions that are for the benefit of the group. > >> >>> >> While > >> >>> >> I have never actually unsubscribed or banned any person from > >> >>> >> participating (mailing list, irc channel, or in person), I have > had > >> >>> >> to > >> >>> >> enable some brief periods of moderation to the mailing list while > >> >>> >> personal issues were resolved. I feel that this and other duties > >> >>> >> should > >> >>> >> be the responsibility of a group of people, and that this group > >> >>> >> should > >> >>> >> somehow be enabled or voted on by the members. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> To start with, just having multiple people be the moderators of > the > >> >>> >> mailing list, and also having a way for the group members to > >> >>> >> maintain > >> >>> >> the web site (a task which I completely FAIL at doing in case you > >> >>> >> have > >> >>> >> noticed). This will go a long ways to achieving the goal of not > >> >>> >> having > >> >>> >> myself be singularly responsible for this and ensure that things > >> >>> >> are > >> >>> >> done for the benefit of everyone. These things are on my agenda > >> >>> >> for > >> >>> >> the > >> >>> >> coming months and I will be making more announcements about this > >> >>> >> soon. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I am going to be enlisting everyone's feedback and working to > >> >>> >> establish > >> >>> >> the following: > >> >>> >> - an official charter which details the group structure > >> >>> >> - a group of moderators > >> >>> >> - an additional administrator to help me maintain the site > (likely > >> >>> >> to > >> >>> >> be easier to do once we install a proper web management system of > >> >>> >> some > >> >>> >> sort) > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> For now, I am asking everyone to take a moment and read what I > have > >> >>> >> proposed for a Charter. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> The proposed charter is located at http://socallinux.org/charter > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> This will be something which is only a 'read and understand' > option > >> >>> >> for > >> >>> >> now. If conditions demand, then in the future we can make this > be > >> >>> >> something which has to be agreed upon before approval of > signing-up > >> >>> >> to > >> >>> >> the mailing list or other activities. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> While I have started this Charter, I did so by following the > >> >>> >> example > >> >>> >> set > >> >>> >> by many other successful Linux User Groups. Ultimately, I expect > >> >>> >> the > >> >>> >> members of this group to add to this list with their own ideas > >> >>> >> because > >> >>> >> this isn't just something I manage alone. We all need to share > the > >> >>> >> responsibility of keeping things running smoothly, so I am asking > >> >>> >> this > >> >>> >> conversation in an open forum like this. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Please reply to this thread with comments and suggested > additions. > >> >>> >> I > >> >>> >> know the charter as it is currently written needs some help, but > I > >> >>> >> need > >> >>> >> your help in keeping the group self-moderated and running > smoothly > >> >>> >> so > >> >>> >> I > >> >>> >> strongly believe this is something we need to do. Specifically > >> >>> >> seeking > >> >>> >> comments on Articles 6, 7, & 8, as I have not yet developed a > >> >>> >> policy > >> >>> >> on > >> >>> >> how moderators and administrators are selected and how the voting > >> >>> >> process might work. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Thanks again for making SocalLinux.org a great community, and > >> >>> >> thanks > >> >>> >> in > >> >>> >> advance for taking the time to read this and the charter document > >> >>> >> idea > >> >>> >> I've posted. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Looking forward to 2010! > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Regards, > >> >>> >> David > >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> >> LinuxUsers mailing list > >> >>> >> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > >> >>> >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > >> >>> >> > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> LinuxUsers mailing list > >> >> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > >> >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > LinuxUsers mailing list > >> > LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > >> > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to > >> be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." > >> -Roger Penrose > >> _______________________________________________ > >> LinuxUsers mailing list > >> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LinuxUsers mailing list > > LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > > > > > > > -- > "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to > be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." > -Roger Penrose > _______________________________________________ > LinuxUsers mailing list > LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >
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