-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/04/2011 09:03 PM, Michael Sokolov wrote: > Jeff Lasman <jpli...@nobaloney.net> wrote: > >> No, I don't think it's more sensible. I just think I don't want to spend >> the >> money for the bonded T1 or even the bonded SDSL. > > Well, to be honest I probably wouldn't be able to afford it either, so I > just use a single non-bonded SDSL circuit. And I deliberately run it at > a lower speed to reduce the cost: I'm very close to my CO so my loop > length can easily support the full 1.5 Mbps, but I deliberately run at > 384 kbps. It was the lowest speed offered by VZB when they offered SDSL > at all (the service I have is most certainly no longer orderable), and I > deliberately chose this lowest speed because it was/is the least > expensive of the options *which my religion allows*.
Your religion? The church of elitist local loop hackers? :) Sorry couldn't resist. I pay about > $180/month for this SDSL after all taxes and extortions are added, which > may sound outrageous, but it's still a lot more affordable than the > $650/month I was quoted for a T1. Oh yes. > > Of course VZB's prices are gouged beyond belief, and if I were able to > switch ISPs, I could get that same T1 for ~$300/month instead of $650. Right. > But my /24 block of public routable IPv4 space from VZB is non-portable, > and I'll never give it up, so changing ISPs is not an option for me. How is this ip space routed to you? BGP? Are you utilizing all that space? If not don't be surprised if some of it gets reclaimed. They can demand usage documentation at any time. Ping sweeps aren't sufficient. They will ask for syslog/firewall logs etc. The resistance to v6 is amazing. People will stretch v4 for as long as they possibly can. > > Because of all the variables involved speed is the least important one > to me, that's the one I sacrifice on to get something that satisfies me > on every other metric *and* which I can afford. Oh it makes perfect sense. > > > But when you switch to Mifi because cable went down, you can't use the > IP addresses belonging to cable with Mifi, can you? That approach to > "backup connection" is not acceptable to those who wish to continue > being reachable. Exactly. This is why I'm getting a block of PI space SWIPed to me by a buddy. Once I have that, I can also get v6 space from ARIN. I will have two outbound connections (cable/dsl) and peer with the source of the IP block. I also plan a couple wireless local loops (verizon lte/t-mobile 4g) for OOB access. > > I actually have dial backup with my SDSL. VZB never officially offered > dial backup on DSL Office, but I had social-engineered one of their lead > engineers to set it up for me. The idea is that if SDSL goes down, I > enable the analog dial interface on my open source non-Ethernet WAN > router, and all my servers remain up *with unchanged IP addresses*, just > temporarily slowed down to analog modem speed until SDSL is brought back > up. Very nice. > > I think I need to start an SDSL/T1 Users Social Club as my first step... > Hey, if the Vinlanders can get away with having their own social club, > why not SDSL/T1 Users? <dons flame retardent suit> Yes!! I think a group in SoCal for big telco geeks to meet up would be awesome!! It's an under represented group. Lots of VOIP enthusiasts, but it's not the same. A piddly little Asterisk deployment for 1k or less users, vs the amount of awesomeness that's in the telco infrastructure. </flame off> > > MS > _______________________________________________ > LinuxUsers mailing list > LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers - -- Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNJLkoAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAthfQP/03RLOw9KSmnr3CFVoG2oafh /ZoGQQxrt9LvTn59mXufxzA/o3uqm95nWxuIXvMbsTYW3qXBwxOhNeGKwdA7MGyF fTS8VCJRgHIyBk+pOdXwuM3LY4iIBYvdCPjOVpFK4npfZoVvAjHNwmjtoAwhgW41 XoJISo9WfvkANRptFKKqCnve8Ui4YqcsOzARATB+7zHBdCZZFmDR8jQwZCJsSCK2 wo8RI/NK8FLf3yN8YYPotFyjfiYfe35PURbMhq5feqnK3egzVCIeHq/Bc9z5Rct7 PoPiEdcerB7xhoHQHHsvirEeSaOItNV1T9mowLp+OxWmiyTSsZsuHF9OZOfDDbw1 IL04mIPcCC0WvO8na15XcckKDmh405i83+6qBDT26N8+UIrDOohUPC4nYPfqRWOV WJw095aoT0ewaET/1y806x+CVEaNlpbxaxgiYpLwver9bHX+ZZ2+5VzFQxf10k9F 2x5yAU9UP3yOSCVhFwDDW3BD78MzsA3I63uh2NHqOoZdKFYMXwMmA+zxF6qIv0CS GpwZEcoFEDoe8h/zV+F74hfkAcwT+p3YCo5RfbQ48VpYUB3POdJcnocK2qfukKIB 0G+4fcCTrccv7OFppK8mK9Tu2UGutwQ7ldqK9cEQ14elp5EdmIePm9jSMpTjV/KL Bbae7xvHDPiz21ox2qjQ =unjJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ LinuxUsers mailing list LinuxUsers@socallinux.org http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers