Charles N Wyble <char...@knownelement.com> wrote:

> Hmmmm. Interesting. I see your point. If one gets FIOS/Cable can't they
> get symmetric service? I seem to recall Comcast offering that. I know
> Time Warner Cable does (5x5mbps for ~70.00 a month).

It doesn't matter.  I won't give up my SDSL.  The only way anyone will
take my SDSL from me is from my cold dead hands.

> So SDSL isn't the only option anymore.

FOR ME it is.

Just for the record, I absolutely would not mind being the world's only
SDSL user.  But I'm not.  According to the E-mail exchange I've had just
a few days ago with the Director of Network Operations at one of the
SDSL-serving ISPs, they have a whopping 50 users using SDSL with V.35
hand-off.  And that's just for the highly elitist V.35 option, so I can
only imagine that the total number of people using SDSL in general (most
of whom unfortunately use CPE devices that aren't much different from
the ADSL ones, Ethernet and all) must be at least two orders of magnitude
greater.

So if there are ~5000 SDSL users total in the USA-occupied territories,
that is a LOT - it means I am quite far from being the last and only one.

> Granted it does require a media converter from
> copper/coax/fiber to ethernet.

I will never, ever, ever use such a "media converter".  Instead I use a
Real Router (Cisco 2503 currently, my own MPC866-based open source hw
platform in the future) in which the WAN connection is attached to the
IP stack as a true bona fide non-Ethernet interface, using a V.35 or
EIA-530 cable and a CSU/DSU.

> What are those standards?

GOST 1.9-67.

> Are they outlined somewhere?

In the text of the GOST standard, of course.  In Russian, of course.
This page has a copy of the first page of the standard document:

http://picto.mania.ru/marks/qual-01t.htm

The Wikipedia page summarizes it as well.

> Is it equivalent to the "made in America" symbol (ie national
> pride) or is it some sort of documented standard (like say UL listed?)

More like the latter.  We did have "sdelano v CCCP" (Made in the USSR)
marks too, but the USSR quality symbol is separate.

MS
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