Ragi, If the new privacy policy is a simplification of what Google has done for years, why doesn't Google just post the new policy on the web so that people looking for it can read it? Why do I need to agree to it? Based on your claim, haven't we already agreed to these policies in previous TOS agreements? Suspect...imo.
Chris... On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Ragi Burhum <r...@burhum.com> wrote: > Dude, this is how it has been working for years. The new TOS just makes it > easy to understand that this is what they are talking about. But the > practice has been there. have you ever asked a friend to Google something > and pick the third result and their search results were different from > yours? I can remember realizing this 4+ years ago. > >> >> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 03:51:46 -0600 >> >> From: Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] how do we feel about google & gmail now? >> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org> >> Message-ID: >> >> <caeprvybrx0+d4voaz22eaaaxtmyfinut+tfkkoom_wn1ot3...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> >> Trevor, >> >> Yes, As I stated in the previous email: >> "I can even appreciate that this sharing of personal information >> happens within Google controlled websites...etc." >> >> I did not claim Google was selling "this" data. What Google is doing >> is forcing the users to accept a new privacy policy. This is a bad >> thing because the new policy actually violates the user's privacy. >> The new policy allows Google to use your email to "help" with search >> results. No thank you, I want to opt out of this.... >> >> >> Chris... >> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Trevor Benedict <mre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Google is not sharing data with other sites. Google has never sold any >> > of your data to a 3rd party. They don't need too. >> > What they are doing is linking Youtube, and a few other things THEY >> > OWN together. >> > >> > I really don't understand why people think Google is selling this >> > data, or letting a 3rd party have access to it. It's just not the >> > case. >> > - Trevor >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I think you guys are missing the point. ?The "new" privacy policy, not >> >> >> the stuff they have been doing for years, that starts on March 1st, >> >> 2012 is something users must accept. ?It is this new policy that >> >> people have a problem. ?The fact that Google runs a script that search >> >> >> my email and puts the ad words in the right column when I am using the >> >> web client is different than them forcing users to accept that their >> >> data will be shared with other sites. ?Users should be able to opt out >> >> >> of this policy, IMO. >> >> >> >> >> >> Chris... >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Trevor Benedict <mre...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes, im with Ragi here. >> >>> >> >>> Google is making it simpler to manage for them, and for you. They have >> >>> been kind of doing this for years now. >> >>> This gives me the power to make it easier to block, and/or control >> >>> what ad's sectors I would like to see. >> >>> They even link to a plugin for blocking cookies. >> >>> http://www.google.com/ads/preferences/html/intl/en/plugin/ >> >>> >> >>> http://www.google.com/ads/preferences/?hl=en >> >>> "You can remove or edit your categories at any time" >> >>> Its pretty funny for what they think I like. >> >>> >> >>> - Trevor >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Ragi Burhum <r...@burhum.com> wrote: >> >>>> Perhaps I am missing something key to this discussion. >> >>>> >> >>>> Anybody who has ever paid attention to the adwords that show up on >> >>>> gmail or adsense delivered throughout the entire Internet should have >> >>>> known >> >>>> this has been going on for years. Why else would I be getting, say, >> >>>> geospatial ads on an ecommerce site about memory modules? >> >>>> >> >>>> The fact that the tos language across all g-products is easier is to >> >>>> understand is a good thing. The practice of what is described there has >> >>>> been >> >>>> going on for years, I am frankly surprised people are all up in arms as >> >>>> if >> >>>> it were something new... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 02:41:55 -0600 >> >>>>> From: Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] how do we feel about google & gmail now? >> >>>>> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org> >> >>>>> Message-ID: >> >>>>> ? >> >>>>> ?<caeprvyd8p1vtk-qvra1xxv_awhhymvstdcvfrg7xe2_ez0o...@mail.gmail.com> >> >> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Trevor, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> If you could provide specific directions, or a link to directions, >> >>>>> on >> >>>>> how to turn this new privacy policy off, it would be much >> >>>>> appreciated. >> >>>>> Do you mean when the page to accept the policy shows up? ?I have >> >>>>> long >> >> >>>>> respected Google and I would hate for that to change now. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Chris... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Trevor Benedict <mre...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> Android fail >> >>>>>> Message-ID: <1328009307...@email.android.com> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> - Trevor >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> LOL... >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Mark Holmquist >> >>>>>>> <marktrac...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> On 01/31/2012 03:29 AM, benjamin.hargi...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my LG phone >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Fascinating....tell us more! 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