Chris,

Apologies but I do not think I understand your question. The privacy policy
is available here http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/

As far as "*why* [you] need to agree to it", well, it is because Google is
a company and if you want to use their services, that is what you have to
do. If you do not want to use their services, then you do not have to agree
to it.

What they are doing is basically a preemptive strike to make sure that when
they get hit with an anti-trust lawsuit or some huge privacy law class
action law suit (most likely from Europe, where privacy laws are more
strict), they have some ammunition. They can say "we announced the crap of
our privacy policy, we even simplified it so that more people can
understand it, and in addition, we even supported the Google Data
Liberation Front <http://www.dataliberation.org/>, where anybody that did
not want to continue using our products could get their data from us or
delete it. Whatever lawyer is litigating against them and wants to use the
privacy argument will have a hard time because Google now has this under
their belt.

Makes sense to me. They are not changing how they do business (same way the
did before - highly targeted ads scanning your data from anybody that uses
Google Analytics, emails you get, etc). They are just cleaning up their
legal ammunition.

- Ragi



> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 06:10:53 -0600
> From: Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] how do we feel about google & gmail now?
> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org>
> Message-ID:
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> Ragi,
>
> If the new privacy policy is a simplification of what Google has done
> for years, why doesn't Google just post the new policy on the web so
> that people looking for it can read it?  Why do I need to agree to it?
>  Based on your claim, haven't we already agreed to these policies in
> previous TOS agreements?  Suspect...imo.
>
> Chris...
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Ragi Burhum <r...@burhum.com> wrote:
> > Dude, this is how it has been working for years. The new TOS just makes
> it
> > easy to understand that this is what they are talking about. But the
> > practice has been there. have you ever asked a friend to Google something
> > and pick the third result and their search results were different from
> > yours? I can remember realizing this 4+ years ago.
> >
> >>
> >> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 03:51:46 -0600
> >>
> >> From: Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] how do we feel about google & gmail now?
> >> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org>
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >> ?<caeprvybrx0+d4voaz22eaaaxtmyfinut+tfkkoom_wn1ot3...@mail.gmail.com>
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> >>
> >>
> >> Trevor,
> >>
> >> Yes, As I stated in the previous email:
> >> "I can even appreciate that this sharing of personal information
> >> happens within Google controlled websites...etc."
> >>
> >> I did not claim Google was selling "this" data. ?What Google is doing
> >> is forcing the users to accept a new privacy policy. ?This is a bad
> >> thing because the new policy actually violates the user's privacy.
> >> The new policy allows Google to use your email to "help" with search
> >> results. ?No thank you, I want to opt out of this....
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris...
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Trevor Benedict <mre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > Google is not sharing data with other sites. Google has never sold any
> >> > of your data to a 3rd party. They don't need too.
> >> > What they are doing is linking Youtube, and a few other things THEY
> >> > OWN together.
> >> >
> >> > I really don't understand why people think Google is selling this
> >> > data, or letting a 3rd party have access to it. It's just not the
> >> > case.
> >> > - Trevor
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> I think you guys are missing the point. ?The "new" privacy policy,
> not
> >>
> >> >> the stuff they have been doing for years, that starts on March 1st,
> >> >> 2012 is something users must accept. ?It is this new policy that
> >> >> people have a problem. ?The fact that Google runs a script that
> search
> >>
> >> >> my email and puts the ad words in the right column when I am using
> the
> >> >> web client is different than them forcing users to accept that their
> >> >> data will be shared with other sites. ?Users should be able to opt
> out
> >>
> >> >> of this policy, IMO.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Chris...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Trevor Benedict <mre...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> Yes, im with Ragi here.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Google is making it simpler to manage for them, and for you. They
> have
> >> >>> been kind of doing this for years now.
> >> >>> This gives me the power to make it easier to block, and/or control
> >> >>> what ad's sectors I would like to see.
> >> >>> They even link to a plugin for blocking cookies.
> >> >>> http://www.google.com/ads/preferences/html/intl/en/plugin/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://www.google.com/ads/preferences/?hl=en
> >> >>> "You can remove or edit your categories at any time"
> >> >>> Its pretty funny for what they think I like.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - Trevor
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Ragi Burhum <r...@burhum.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>> Perhaps I am missing something key to this discussion.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Anybody who has ever paid attention to the adwords that show up on
> >> >>>> gmail or adsense delivered throughout the entire Internet should
> have known
> >> >>>> this has been going on for years. Why else would I be getting, say,
> >> >>>> geospatial ads on an ecommerce site about memory modules?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The fact that the tos language across all g-products is easier is
> to
> >> >>>> understand is a good thing. The practice of what is described
> there has been
> >> >>>> going on for years, I am frankly surprised people are all up in
> arms as if
> >> >>>> it were something new...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 02:41:55 -0600
> >> >>>>> From: Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] how do we feel about google & gmail now?
> >> >>>>> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org>
> >> >>>>> Message-ID:
> >> >>>>> ?
> >> >>>>> ?<
> caeprvyd8p1vtk-qvra1xxv_awhhymvstdcvfrg7xe2_ez0o...@mail.gmail.com>
> >>
> >> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Trevor,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> If you could provide specific directions, or a link to directions,
> >> >>>>> on
> >> >>>>> how to turn this new privacy policy off, it would be much
> >> >>>>> appreciated.
> >> >>>>> Do you mean when the page to accept the policy shows up? ?I have
> >> >>>>> long
> >>
> >> >>>>> respected Google and I would hate for that to change now.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Chris...
> >> >>>>>
>
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