Exactly. And arguably the closer the the ISP PITRs are to its customer sources, 
it may be on their default path so maybe the /32 doesn't need to be advertised 
at all.

Dino

On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Paul Vinciguerra <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ron,
> 
> I think that Dino is suggesting that ISP's with their own populations deploy 
> PITRs for this /32 prefix and announce the /32 into BGP with a no-export 
> community, so that you as an ISP provide encapsulation as close to source of 
> your customer population only.  This will (1) save you transit costs to 
> another PITR provider for this prefix. You would only be paying for transit 
> if the RLOC were not on your network. where otherwise you might be paying for 
> transit between two of your customers. (2) it will give your customers an 
> optimal path because you are encapsulating close to the source. and this will 
> (3) allow for PITR Gateways to be deployed on smaller equipment.
> 
> Also, this would not stop a given EID who wants to have global reachability 
> from a given PITR gateway system from buying "EID Transit" from a PITR 
> provider who will announce the more specific EID prefix out of the /32 for a 
> price.  I don't know that announcing a more specific globally is a great 
> idea, though.  It actually could cause traffic to take a less direct path.    
>    
> 
> Paul
> ________________________________________
> From: lisp [[email protected]] on behalf of Ronald Bonica 
> [[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 2:27 PM
> To: Dino Farinacci
> Cc: LISP mailing list list
> Subject: Re: [lisp] WGLC draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-07
> 
> Hi Dino,
> 
> Could you be a bit more explicit?
> 
> Please assume the following operator requirements:
> 
> - In order to ensure the customer experience, an operator wants to attract 
> all traffic from the global Internet to LISP sites that it supports through 
> PITRs that it operates.
> - In order to maintain financial viability, that same operator does not want 
> to attract any traffic from the global Internet to LISP sites that it does 
> not support through PITRs that it operates.
> 
> Do you agree that these are both valid requirements? If so, how can the 
> operator do this while advertising only large aggregates of the EID address 
> block to the global Internet?
> 
>                                                                            Ron
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dino Farinacci [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 12:18 PM
>> To: Ronald Bonica
>> Cc: Luigi Iannone; Geoff Huston; Sander Steffann; LISP mailing list
>> list
>> Subject: Re: [lisp] WGLC draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-07
>> 
>>> Assume that an operator deploys a PITR. What policy can that operator
>> enforce to ensure that it is compensated for all (or even most) of the
>> traffic that it carries across that PITR?
>> 
>> Through the same monetizing means it does today to attract any type of
>> traffic it wants to transit.
>> 
>> Dino
>> 
>> 
> 
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