Sounds like a job for the NSA - collateral compensation included :-(

Heiner



-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- 
Von: Joel M. Halpern <[email protected]>
An: Ronald Bonica <[email protected]>; Dino Farinacci <[email protected]>
Cc: LISP mailing list list <[email protected]>
Verschickt: Mi, 4 Dez 2013 6:02 pm
Betreff: Re: [lisp] WGLC draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-07


A partial answer that has been suggested is that the oeprator who 
deploys the PITR is an EID allocator rather than a conventional / 
existing ISP.  Unfortunately, if LISp succeeds it is not clear that the 
compensation levels can match the increasing demand for traffic in the 
critical periods.

Yours,
Joel

On 12/4/13 11:51 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote:
> Dino,
>
> I am not understanding your response. Let me ask the question another way.
>
> Assume that an operator deploys a PITR. What policy can that operator enforce 
to ensure that it is compensated for all (or even most) of the traffic that it 
carries across that PITR?
>
>                                                                          Ron
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dino Farinacci [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:44 AM
>> To: Ronald Bonica
>> Cc: Luigi Iannone; Geoff Huston; Sander Steffann; LISP mailing list
>> list
>> Subject: Re: [lisp] WGLC draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-07
>>
>>> Luigi,
>>>
>>> Is this really what is going to happen?
>>>
>>> If a PITR announces the entire /32 into the global Internet, it puts
>> itself on the forwarding path for the entire /32, and incurs the cost
>> associated with transporting traffic towards every site in that /32.
>> This is supportable only if the PITR operator is somehow compensated
>> for carrying all of that traffic.
>>
>> But maybe only from a few sources. But if the /32 needs to be divided
>> based on region, then maybe /40s could be advertised. But to the point
>> about "few sources", the more PITRs there are, the better the load is
>> shared.
>>
>> And I envision PITRs will be deployed on on-path boxes anyways. Those
>> boxes right now can route to the entire Internet, they are called PE
>> boxes, are they not Ron?
>>
>>> Isn't it more likely that the PITR operator will advertise only
>> slices of the /32, with each of those slices being assigned to either
>> its customers (from whom it collects revenue) or the customers of other
>> operators with whom it has made financial arrangements?
>>
>> No it won't be that way. EIDs are provider independent. If you do what
>> we suggest, we make no forward progress.
>>
>> Dino
>>
>>>
>>>                                                       Ron
>>>
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