On 25 Oct 2000, at 7:53, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:

> At 10:23 AM -0400 10/25/00, Jim Trigg wrote:
> >
> >That's true.  The problem is that you seem to be advocating making 
> >the new feature the *only* way to identify the list that the message 
> >came by.
> 
> no, not only. Perhaps official is the better term.
> 
> Of course, if you have a better way of doing it, we're all ears...

Perhaps you need to remind me/us of what "it" is.  If I remember right 
[it was a lot of email ago], the only reasons offered for this "feature" 
[sic] were: 1) making it easier to trace errors
            2) give incompetent users a better warm-fuzzy feeling about
               their email being "personalized".

Downsides (at least the ones I saw right off):
   hard to tell if the email really *WAS* addressed to you or not or if
    it was list-originated
   harder to reply to the list (if you can correctly guess which one
     originated the message) [or do the MLMs that do this sort of thing
     also mung the reply-to?]

So, while I await to be eddicated about all the other problems this 
scheme is intended to help, how about:

 1) is done at least as well, if not better, by VERP
 2) if you want to personalize, why not personalize the BODY...  the
    headers are what I see when I scan my mailbox and what I filter
    on, and so, IMO, so space there is precious.  So if you *HAVE*
    to "personalize", why not change the *body* of the message. You
    could have it say something like:
      Dear Chuq.  Here's your latest issue of the hockey-lovers digest 
        we hope you enjoy it as much as the previous digests...

          [rest of message]

    ... and it'll all feel SO friendly and personal.. :o)

I must be missing something really useful important, because those are 
_surely_ not the real reasons for what I see as a basically bogus change.

  /Bernie\
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