At 11:47 AM 6/6/2007, Alfred Urrutia wrote:
Chris Campbell wrote:
If they have a shield that will defend against weapon emplacements you're pretty much boned. No way small craft will help you there, no matter what Star Wars says.

I was thinking more smaller craft to get close, inside the shield itself, to manage an attack.

And how would they manage this? It's a shield. You can't just wander on through it if you have a small craft.

For capture, you do a boarding action with a real ship and then use small craft as needed during the boarding process. Probably not necessary, though, since no one's going to be packing heavy ordinance inside a ship anyway.

Where do you get that idea? I would think that power projection would translate from surface ships to space ships. This of course assumes multiple targets out in space to project power to, Moon and Mars colonies, orbiting colonies, etc.

*Inside* a ship. No one who wants to keep their ship intact will use heavy ordinance inside of it. Doing so would be suicidal.

There's a leap of logic when it comes to using the mechs for space combat, though. There's just no point to arming the things, ever. Hell, even if you use them for boarding actions you still won't arm them with anti-ship weaponry, since there's no point. Just give them what they need to get onboard.

I could see the point in the event that the ferrying ship(s) are attacked and are either forced to leave or get destroyed. Where's the protection then? Sure, maybe one or two rounds per mech for defense but it would be like bazookas against tanks for infantry, not great but better than just standing there wishing your tanks hadn't been wiped out as the enemy tanks approach.

Sure. It's plausible as a desperation move, but nobody's gonna do it as a matter of SOP. There are just better ways to get the job done.

I can. Anything a mech can do a jet can do better. Mechs will have their place, but it won't be in space (or rather, not when it comes to combat; if you're talking construction or such, rock on). Someone might strap weapons to a mech if it's all that was available, but once he gains access to real military hardware he'll drop the mech in a hurry.

I am assuming a great deal when I defend the idea, of course. I'm assuming sufficient power (so it doesn't turn into Robot Jox half hour to make a move), stronger mechanisms for moving limbs so they would be the scaled up equivalent of UFC combatants vs. present-day cranes with hands at the ends, faster/more powerful computers to run all the crap necessary to make mechs commonplace.

And when you have all of that virtually anything other than a humanoid design will perform better.

I agree that the odds are slim that it could happen, all the events would unfold such that at the end of it you have mechs and those mechs are considered not only viable for construction and what not but convertible to weapons platforms. My point is there's nothing I can see that would make that impossible or definitely not happen.

I can, namely the fact that anything you can do with a mech (in combat, mind) can be done better by something else.

Powered body armor is one thing. I can definitely see that happening (something like the marines in Starcraft). But there's a pretty big gap between that and bona-fide mecha.
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