At 2/9/99, 01:00 PM, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
>I'm just tossing this to start things off. It addresses the fundamental
>issue wrt trademarks. It is an insight that I think we can all agree with
>at some level. Much of the disagreements between the two drafts are on
>trademark issues. I feel that it is long past time to resolve them, or
>admit that it is an intractable problem.
>
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>>Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 16:35:20 -0500
>>From: "vinton g. cerf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: spam issue revisited
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>>Roeland,
>>
>>roughly what I said is that domain names must be unique (that is,
>>only only target "host" can have a given domain name) but that
>>trademarks, because of the way they are granted, can be applied
>>to more than one entity (product, service). It is not uncommon
>>that a telecommunications service company and a bus manufacturing
>>company having the same trademarked corporate name - MCI in one
>>case. Because of the ambiguity of trademarks, their use in
>>domain names leads to a fundamental conflict because there can
>>be only one entity that can use, e.g. mci.com, as a domain name.


Restricting new gTLDs doesn't help this
problem, it only makes it worse!

Jay.


>>Vint
>>
>>At 01:01 AM 2/3/99 -0800, you wrote:
>>>Hello Vint,
>>>
>>>On the IFWP/DNSO/ORSC lists we've been discussing trademark issues related
>>>to domain names. I watched you give a talk a few weeks ago, on CNN, and
>>>during the Q&A portion you made a statement describing DNS and trademarks
>>>being fundamentally incompatible. Do you recall those words and is there a
>>>quotable reference for that statement?
>>>
>>>It is actually Mark Schwimmer and myself debating this. It also revolves
>>>around the NSI trademark dispute policies.
>>>
>>>___________________________________________________ 
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>>
>>See you at INET'99, San Jose, CA, June 22-25,1999 
>>http://www.isoc.org/inet99/
>>
>
>
>___________________________________________________ 
>Roeland M.J. Meyer - 
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>___________________________________________________ 
>                       KISS ... gotta love it!
> 

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