Milton is absolutely correct. Set of rules my hind end. The internet
needs an ICANN like set of rules for one reason only and that is so that
special interest behind Icann's rule can use them to their own advantage
and the detriment of others.
Esther is talking more here than she used to...that is good but the
exchanges here over the march 18 meeting in california show that she still
doesn't get it. those of us on this side of the fence would be interested
to discuss meta issues with esther period.....we could care less about
hearing Icann latest action on this that or the other thing should be
obeyed.
>Craig:
>
>Craig Simon wrote:
>
>> The "Internet" is a feature arising out of the voluntary interconnection
>> between a growing number of autonomous (mostly private) networks. It is
>> an emergent property, a constituted structure, and not inherently a
>> thing in itself,
>
>By George, you've got it. Now, hold that thought.....!
>
>> My point is that the "Internet" is already run by its associated
>> members. It could not be said to exist without their association. But
>> the vocabulary which presently facilitates that association is rather
>> limited. This debate concerns whether it is appropriate to add things
>> like codes of conduct to the vocabulary so that more people will have an
>> easier time finding out "how to go on" in this new environment.
>
>This is why I resist social constructivism. We aren't talking about
>"vocabulary," here, Craig, we're talking about state power, bottleneck
>monopolies, and coercion. You constructivists always get confused about
>this. You and ICANN can add any words to our vocabulary you like. If people
>agree with you, they'll pick up the meme and it will spread. The code of
>conduct will become "constituted" as an "emergent property" of the system.
>But ICANN is constituting itself as an old-fashioned, progressive-era
>regulatory body. This is friggin' 1927, its the Federal Radio Commission
>parlaying their control of the frequency spectrum into ownership rules,
>content regulations, technical standards, distribution of licenses over the
>right number of congressional districts, etc. etc. Ira Magaziner is proving
>to be another Herbert Hoover, and as Marx said, when history repeats itself,
>the first time it's tragedy, the second time farce.
>
>> Many of the elite ICANN-bashers are philosophically predisposed to favor
>> a very loose association based on the rule of the freest possible free
>> for all. That predisposition is so deeply embedded, they have become
>> allergic to the concept of recognizing that a more clearly stated set of
>> rules is likely to benefit a wide population.
>
>AAAAAaaaaaaachoooo! snifff. sniff.
>
>> Craig Simon
>
> --MM
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