Dennis, Javier and all,
d3nnis wrote:
> Javier and Jeff --
>
> I think this is perhaps the most interesting dialog I have observed
> since coming to the Cyberspace regime called ICANN.
I don't believe I would want to characterize ICANN and most
especially it's (Initial?) Interim board and now it's newly and obviously
illegitimately elected members along with those that were elected
DNSO/NC members. (Remember the ICANN bylaws that were
Pointed out by both Karl Auerbach and Tony Rutkowski where
ICANN itself is "Compelled" to abide by the recommendations of the
DNSO). See the picture here yet Dennis, or anyone??
>
>
> It seems to me that Cyberspace is torn between the extremes that
> defined the regulatory regimes of most of the 20th century on planet
> earth.
>
> One pole is defined by fascism, in which an essentially capitalist
> oligarchy supports a dictatorship, and the other is occupied by the
> dicatorship of the proletariat. And neither one of them is functional
> or morally tolerable.
How utterly true, and it seems that this is at least in part, the two polar
political positions. But I would and have argued, that the market based
model is more likely applicable as the overall and long term solution via
it's inherent evolutionary tendencies.
>
>
> Rather than financing Cyberspace War I and Cyberspace War II and
> a Cyberspace Cold War, wouldn't it be better to just accept that both
> poles lost -- and that a free market economy balanced by a government-
> reinforced system of individual liberties is what history has proven
> as workable?
Agreed. But it seems that the ICANN BoD, the DNSO illegitimately
elected NC members can't or won't accept this. As such, they have
decided or are in the process of deciding that market based free trade
and exchange needs to be tightly controlled. Of course, as you very nicely
pointed out Dennis, this has been tried before, failed every time, and
is highly unlikely to succeed now. However as long as there are those
that refuse to understand this, even though they are very well aware
of it, will severely damage millions of peoples lives, and likely postpone
the futures of those not even involved or interested yet.
>
>
> >Dennis
>
> PS: (My best friend, who was a devout Socialist, and died last week, disagreed with
>me
> on this point because he felt that Socialism was never given a real chance. Tell me
> I'm wrong in a meaningful way, so that I can toast him at Thanksgiving dinner
>tomorrow
> with his wife and son, and quote to them what you said.)
>
> ----------
> > Javier and all,
> >
> > You know Javier, there was once a child much like you liken
> > ICANN to be some 50 odd years ago. That child had defects,
> > although they mostly mental ones, much like ICANN's. His name
> > was Adolf Hitler...
> >
> > So, what I am getting at here is that sometimes the cure, kills
> > the patient.
> >
> > Javier Rodriguez wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Tony,
> > >
> > > you wrote:
> > > >... a "good ICANN" is one that does nothing
> > > >or disappears. About the only exception, is the
> > > >introduction of new TLDs.
> > >
> > > I have a great respect for your positions about
> > > many themes related to the Internet and ICANN.
> > >
> > > But I have to disagree with you about that the
> > > best ICANN is a one that disappears...
> > >
> > > THE BEST ICANN is the one that you, me, and
> > > many other people is building around the whole
> > > world. This ICANN is like a child that has been
> > > born with huge, enourmous defects, imperfections,
> > > limitations. But it is OUR little child. We can not
> > > desire his dead, is our task, and our commitment
> > > to get as soon as possible a boy pleanty of
> > > health, and in the good way to become a madure,
> > > open, transparent organization for the sake
> > > of the bussiness, cultural, social issues that
> > > are related to the Internet.
> > >
> > > Yours truly,
> > >
> > > Javier Rodriguez
> > > AXISNET
> > > Lima, Peru
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Javier Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > AXISNET VicePresident
> > > Peruvian Association of Internet Users and ISPs
> > > Other duties: ECOMLAC ISOC -PERU IPCE
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Contact Number: 972-447-1894
> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> >
> >
> >
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number: 972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
