I'm willing to test on a dell PDA and my phone. I'm glad to say I don't have a blackberry.
On 4/24/07, Mike Kelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That is what I was hoping to do originally, but apparently there has been some bad luck with that approach since many browsers from mobile devices contain the entire user-agent string for IE or Mozilla for instance, but add a piece of text that would identify them as mobile. So a check like that could very likely succeed for many of those unless you crossed it with an OS and profile check anyway. Sadly, that brings us back to the original problem hehe. Keep in mind though, I haven't gotten to really test any solution since I don't have 20 mobile devices at my disposal, so much of what I'm spouting is items I've read hehe. Thanks for the suggestion though. Mike. Joe Kelly wrote: Why not just check for standard browsers and forward them on to your mobile site if the check fails? There's probably a lot less to check for. Thanks, Joe Kelly On 4/24/07, Mike Kelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yup, that's essentially the plan hehe. Have you checked out the WURFL solution I mentioned yet? Wanted to get your take on it. Seems like there is already a test-worthy Java API and custom tag library for use with it and while we would have to update it occasionally, it wouldn't be much worse than a scheduled download. WURFL: http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ WURFL Java Solution: http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/java/index.php What do you think? Mike. John Ivanoff wrote: http://www.wfaa.com/mobile/ On 4/24/07, Mike Kelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The thought makes me cry quite honestly....I'm crying right now...at least it feels like I'm crying. Mike. John Ivanoff wrote: and who knows what happens when these devices hit a site http://umpc.com/default.aspx http://reviews.cnet.com/Nokia_770_Internet_Tablet/4505-3127_7-31396042.html http://www.apple.com/iphone/ On 4/24/07, Mike Kelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi John, your response was really valuable. I felt kind of foolish for not having looked up a mobile specific mailing list :-P I've joined up and started the searching previous to actually posting the question. The wordpress setup is a mix of user-agent, profile, mime-type and OS detection. There is also a PHP class that I found earlier that is actually a pretty impressive piece of work as it stores a big library of over 2000 phones that includes some of the device capabilities, etc. It does however seem like a futile effort as rather than having a big library file, it has an endlessly growing bit of detection code. See: http://phpclasses.goodphp.com/browse/file/7912.html My fear is the maintainance nightmare either of those would create as new devices come out, etc. but that may be what it comes down to hehe. My hope is that I might find a database of some sort that is at least maintained for me hehe. As for the devices I'm trying to detect, I'm going for any mobile device that is a non-desktop laptop machine...anything that might have too small a screen for the main site. Phones, PDAs, blackberry devices, etc. I don't need to know any of their features because all I'm going to do is forward them to the mobile site. The mobile site will be very simple and straight-forward text and menu to minimize bandwidth for mobile users who often have to pay by the bandwidth they use and provide something many different devices can use. Thanks again, Mike. John Ivanoff wrote: I am also interested in this too. I don't know if answer lives in here but It might be worth a look. mobile design sites and mail list. (I'm guessing they should have discussions on detecting mobile devices.) http://mobiledesign.org/ http://www.cameronmoll.com/archives/000577.html wordpress has a mobile plugin http://www.andymoore.info/wordpress-mobile-plugin/ some code (php) http://www.andymoore.info/php-to-detect-mobile-phones/ mobile meaning PDA, blackberry or phone? My little phone only has a color 128px X 128px display. Another good article to read that will help in layout for mobile/low vision site. http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2005/06/24/zoom-layout.html check out the preference page... http://www.stopdesign.com/about/prefs/ Once again I am throwing way too information. John (I have had too much Mountain Dew!!!) On 4/24/07, Tom Woestman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mike, I am curious – I have not tackled this problem but am curious if you tried detecting the browser type and what problems you encountered if you did? Thanks, Tom ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Kelp Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DFW CFUG] Mobile Device Detection Hey everyone...I'm researching ways to detect and redirect mobile devices to a mobile site for one of my clients and thought I would see if anybody on the list has attacked this problem. It seems there is not really a clean way to do it, but I can't even find one that seems to be the standard let alone reliable hehe. So, anyone had to do mobile phone detection? What was your solution and reason you picked it? 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