I haven't fully read this article but it's about 'Make your site
mobile friendly'

http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/css/make-your-site-mobile-friendly

On 4/24/07, John Ivanoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm willing to test on a dell PDA and my phone. I'm glad to say I
don't have a blackberry.


On 4/24/07, Mike Kelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  That is what I was hoping to do originally, but apparently there has been
> some bad luck with that approach since many browsers from mobile devices
> contain the entire user-agent string for IE or Mozilla for instance, but add
> a piece of text that would identify them as mobile. So a check like that
> could very likely succeed for many of those unless you crossed it with an OS
> and profile check anyway.
>
>  Sadly, that brings us back to the original problem hehe. Keep in mind
> though, I haven't gotten to really test any solution since I don't have 20
> mobile devices at my disposal, so much of what I'm spouting is items I've
> read hehe.
>
>  Thanks for the suggestion though.
>
>  Mike.
>
>
>
>  Joe Kelly wrote:
> Why not just check for standard browsers and forward them on to your
>  mobile site if the check fails?  There's probably a lot less to check
>  for.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Joe Kelly
>
>  On 4/24/07, Mike Kelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>   Yup, that's essentially the plan hehe.
>
>   Have you checked out the WURFL solution I mentioned yet? Wanted to get
> your
>  take on it. Seems like there is already a test-worthy Java API and custom
>  tag library for use with it and while we would have to update it
>  occasionally, it wouldn't be much worse than a scheduled download.
>
>   WURFL:
>   http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/
>
>   WURFL Java Solution:
>   http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/java/index.php
>
>   What do you think?
>
>   Mike.
>
>
>   John Ivanoff wrote:
>  http://www.wfaa.com/mobile/
>
>   On 4/24/07, Mike Kelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>    The thought makes me cry quite honestly....I'm crying right now...at
> least
>   it feels like I'm crying.
>
>    Mike.
>
>    John Ivanoff wrote:
>   and who knows what happens when these devices hit a site
>    http://umpc.com/default.aspx
> http://reviews.cnet.com/Nokia_770_Internet_Tablet/4505-3127_7-31396042.html
>    http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>
>
>    On 4/24/07, Mike Kelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>     Hi John, your response was really valuable. I felt kind of foolish for
>  not
>    having looked up a mobile specific mailing list :-P I've joined up and
>    started the searching previous to actually posting the question.
>
>     The wordpress setup is a mix of user-agent, profile, mime-type and OS
>    detection.
>     There is also a PHP class that I found earlier that is actually a pretty
>    impressive piece of work as it stores a big library of over 2000 phones
>   that
>    includes some of the device capabilities, etc. It does however seem like
> a
>    futile effort as rather than having a big library file, it has an
>  endlessly
>    growing bit of detection code.
>     See:
> http://phpclasses.goodphp.com/browse/file/7912.html
>
>     My fear is the maintainance nightmare either of those would create as
> new
>    devices come out, etc. but that may be what it comes down to hehe. My
> hope
>    is that I might find a database of some sort that is at least maintained
>   for
>    me hehe.
>
>     As for the devices I'm trying to detect, I'm going for any mobile device
>    that is a non-desktop laptop machine...anything that might have too small
>  a
>    screen for the main site. Phones, PDAs, blackberry devices, etc. I don't
>    need to know any of their features because all I'm going to do is forward
>    them to the mobile site.
>
>     The mobile site will be very simple and straight-forward text and menu
> to
>    minimize bandwidth for mobile users who often have to pay by the
> bandwidth
>    they use and provide something many different devices can use.
>
>     Thanks again,
>     Mike.
>
>     John Ivanoff wrote:
>    I am also interested in this too.
>     I don't know if answer lives in here but It might be worth a look.
>
>     mobile design sites and mail list. (I'm guessing they should have
>     discussions on detecting mobile devices.)
>     http://mobiledesign.org/
>     http://www.cameronmoll.com/archives/000577.html
>
>     wordpress has a mobile plugin
>     http://www.andymoore.info/wordpress-mobile-plugin/
>     some code (php)
>     http://www.andymoore.info/php-to-detect-mobile-phones/
>
>     mobile meaning PDA, blackberry or phone? My little phone only has a
>     color 128px X 128px display.
>
>     Another good article to read that will help in layout for mobile/low
>     vision site.
>
>  http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2005/06/24/zoom-layout.html
>     check out the preference page...
>    http://www.stopdesign.com/about/prefs/
>
>     Once again I am throwing way too information.
>
>     John
>     (I have had too much Mountain Dew!!!)
>
>     On 4/24/07, Tom Woestman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>     Mike,
>
>
>
>     I am curious – I have not tackled this problem but am curious if you
>  tried
>     detecting the browser type and what problems you encountered if you did?
>
>
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Tom
>
>
>
>      ________________________________
>
>
>     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
>    Of
>     Mike Kelp
>      Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:12 AM
>      To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>      Subject: [DFW CFUG] Mobile Device Detection
>
>
>
>
>     Hey everyone...I'm researching ways to detect and redirect mobile
> devices
>    to
>     a mobile site for one of my clients and thought I would see if anybody
> on
>     the list has attacked this problem.
>
>      It seems there is not really a clean way to do it, but I can't even
> find
>     one that seems to be the standard let alone reliable hehe.
>
>      So, anyone had to do mobile phone detection?
>
>      What was your solution and reason you picked it?
>
>
>      Thanks in advance,
>      Mike.
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