from TB-303 resources mailing list -------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- devilfish IS beautifull gear ;-) no way on earth you can compare a fr-777 to a devilfish, even when the fr-777 is under tb-303 sequencing. the devilfish is something really really special, the soundclips on the website only show a very small range of possibilities, it is capable of much more also the most beautifull subtle organic sounds etc. i agree with you on bypassing the 303 sequencer, why do it?? if you want longer sequences than 16 steps just program a track out of patterns. hey you can even play the little keyboard in realtime :)
----- Original Message ----- From: "TonyBlack [JohnnyBusca]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [TB-303.org] Is a permantent hardware mod required for > from TB-303 resources mailing list > -------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- > > Sorry, but have you ever tried an unmodded 303 besides a Midi controlled > 303. The main power of the 303 is the sequencer. The sound can easily done > with another synth. > > Why would I ever want to bypass the unique feature of a 303? I most of the > time use my 303 to sequence my modulars or 101. That's why I've bought a > 303. > > If I want a 303ish sound and full midi control and a step sequencer (where > you can switch from write to play mode while playing), I would definitely > not buy a devil fish, but a FR-777. Never ruin beautiful gear! > > my 2 cents. > JohnnyBusca > > from TB-303 resources mailing list > > -------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- > > > > Thanks for the info Austin ;) > > > > So are there -must- be other well known companies than Devilfish and Borg > > for the 303 mods out there, right? I mean don't tell me that everyone's > > got > > an unmodded 303 that they don't controll with midi and just hold onto! ;) > > -T > > > > > >>From: "austin corrosive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Re: [TB-303.org] Is a permantent hardware mod required for > >>sequencing? > >>Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:07:41 +0000 > >> > >>from TB-303 resources mailing list > >>-------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- > >> > >>they do , but the midi data has to come from your computer into the 303, > >> so > >>for this you must have c.v & gate inputs on your 303. the unmodded 303 > >> only > >>has c.v & gate outputs. so you must have inputs added to your 303 inorder > >>for it to recive the info from your computer. > >>austin > >> > >> > >>>From: "Tim Cannady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Subject: Re: [TB-303.org] Is a permantent hardware mod required for > >>>sequencing? > >>>Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:17:34 -0800 > >>> > >>>from TB-303 resources mailing list > >>>-------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- > >>> > >>>Interesting, thanks guys. > >>> > >>>So here's why I'm confused: Why do the Kenton kits say that they convert > >>>from CV to MIDI when you guys state that other mods are required? I feel > >>>like I'm missing something here. > >>>Thanks > >>>-T > >>> > >>> > >>>>From: "austin corrosive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>Subject: Re: [TB-303.org] Is a permantent hardware mod required for > >>>>sequencing? > >>>>Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 06:29:19 +0000 > >>>> > >>>>from TB-303 resources mailing list > >>>>-------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- > >>>> > >>>>if you plug the din sync in from your 909 half way into the din sync in > >>>>on your 303, you can use the 303 as the master and sync it to your 909. > >>>>thats what i do anyway. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>From: "Marcel de Velde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>Subject: Re: [TB-303.org] Is a permantent hardware mod required for > >>>>>sequencing? > >>>>>Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 01:45:10 +0200 > >>>>> > >>>>>from TB-303 resources mailing list > >>>>>-------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>>As far as I know there is no "standard" mod at the moment that will > >>>>>output > >>>>>cutoff/reconance. > >>>>>Sure it's possible, but you're going to have to find somebody willing > >>>>> to > >>>>>work out the mod. Most likely not worth it, just tweak the knobs > >>>>>yourself. > >>>>>Syncing to your 909 can be done with the kenton pro solo, or any other > >>>>>midi > >>>>>to din sync converter. > >>>>>Just look at the devilfish and borg mods, or the kenton socket kit, > >>>>> and > >>>>>see > >>>>>what options they give you. > >>>>> > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "Tim Cannady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:27 PM > >>>>>Subject: Re: [TB-303.org] Is a permantent hardware mod required for > >>>>>sequencing? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > from TB-303 resources mailing list > >>>>> > -------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- > >>>>> > > >>>>> > I see. So can you please tell me exactly what I can and cannot get > >>>>>without > >>>>>a > >>>>> > permanent hardware retrofit? > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -I'm mainly looking to *controll* the 303 as a slave via midi. > >>>>> > -I'd like to be able to play with the envelopes (cutoff/resonance) > >>>>> in > >>>>> > realtime and have Cubase record these changes and be able to edit > >>>>>them in > >>>>> > Cubase. > >>>>> > -I'd like to be able to sync it to my 909 and jam with it > >>>>> > > >>>>> > So buying a Kenton Pro Solo won't give me all of these options huh? > >>>>>Let me > >>>>> > know what retrofitting will enable! > >>>>> > Thanks guys ;) > >>>>> > -T > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >From: "Marcel de Velde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> > >Subject: Re: [TB-303.org] Is a permantent hardware mod required > >>>>> for > >>>>> > >sequencing? > >>>>> > >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:05:45 +0200 > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > >from TB-303 resources mailing list > >>>>> > >-------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > >Hi Tim, > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > >Those CV and Gate jacks are outputs, not inputs. So they won't be > >>>>> of > >>>>>much > >>>>> > >help in this case. > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > >----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> > >From: "Tim Cannady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> > >Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 7:27 PM > >>>>> > >Subject: Re: [TB-303.org] Is a permantent hardware mod required > >>>>> for > >>>>> > >sequencing? > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > from TB-303 resources mailing list > >>>>> > > > -------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > Heh, yeah I'd totally go the nicest route if I had to. However, > >>>>> I > >>>>>do > >>>>> > >have > >>>>> > > > two 1/4 inch looking jacks that are marked CV and Gate and they > >>>>>look > >>>>> > >factory > >>>>> > > > done...? > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > >From: "Marcel de Velde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> > > > >Subject: Re: [TB-303.org] Is a permantent hardware mod > >>>>> required > >>>>>for > >>>>> > > > >sequencing? > >>>>> > > > >Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:09:25 +0100 > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > >from TB-303 resources mailing list > >>>>> > > > >-------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > >If your tb-303 is unmodded and has no gate & cv inputs then > >>>>>there is > >>>>>no > >>>>> > >way > >>>>> > > > >the kenton can connect to your tb-303 except for the din sync > >>>>> in > >>>>>which > >>>>> > >will > >>>>> > > > >only control tempo/start/stop. > >>>>> > > > >So yes, in order to control midi note on/off you will have to > >>>>>install > >>>>> > >gate > >>>>> > > > >& > >>>>> > > > >cv inputs on your tb-303. > >>>>> > > > >Depending on what you wish to do with your tb-303 it might be > >>>>>worthwile > >>>>> > >to > >>>>> > > > >do the borg or devilfish mod which also include the gate & cv > >>>>>inputs > >>>>> > >and > >>>>> > >an > >>>>> > > > >accent, slide & filter input. > >>>>> > > > >(hey if you're going to mod your 303 anyhow why not do it > >>>>> right > >>>>>:) > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > >Cheers, > >>>>> > > > >Marcel > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> > > > >From: "Tim Cannady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> > > > >Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:41 PM > >>>>> > > > >Subject: [TB-303.org] Is a permantent hardware mod required > >>>>> for > >>>>> > >sequencing? > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > from TB-303 resources mailing list > >>>>> > > > > > -------[ http://www.tb-303.org ] ---------------------- > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > I was under the impression that with something like a > >>>>> Kenton > >>>>>Pro > >>>>> > >Solo, > >>>>> > >I > >>>>> > > > > > would be able to both Sync the 303 as well as controll it > >>>>>with > >>>>> > >Cubase. > >>>>> > >I > >>>>> > > > > > just got this reply though on a forum I'm on though: > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > "Yes, permanent hardware modification, done by someone > >>>>>experienced. > >>>>> > > > > > Otherwise you will only be able to sync the internal > >>>>>sequencer and > >>>>> > >not > >>>>> > > > >have > >>>>> > > > > > midi control over note on note off." > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > I thought I would ask you guys again because you *are* the > >>>>> > >specialists > >>>>> > > > >;) > >>>>> > > > > > Thanks. > >>>>> > > > > > -Tim > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>_________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> > > > > > Find a broadband plan that fits. 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