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> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Heiden
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [WSG] semantics : was-[HR tag and Semantics]
> 
> Michael,
> 
> > No, no, no!  A DIV is semantically neutral, ie has no meaning
> > whatsoever. The addition of a class name does not change 
> that. So how
> > can a pair of DIV's have more meaning than a specific HTML element?
> 
> Yes a DIV is semantically neutral, but it has a structural meaning.
> And HR doesn't have a semantic meaning either, it's just visual with a
> structural implication.
> 

Would you care to back that up by explaining what 'structural meaning' a
DIV has?



> I prefer the DIV because it shows beginning and end of the structural
> group. HR doesn't do that, it just marks the end.

No, a DIV 'marks' the start and finish of an arbitrary block, in the
'markup' sense of the word 'mark'
By default, nothing about a DIV is visible, even in a visual browser. In
an aural or text-only browser a DIV might as well not exist.


> But one should consider that HR has an advantage: some text-browsers
> and screen readers will render it, the DIV is simply ignored if it
> isn't addressed by css.
> 

Agreed, only I think it is really 'all'  not just 'some'

Mike


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