I too am "self-insured".  I operate my boat carefully and take my
seamanship seriously.

I was sued once for damage that occurred when I dragged down on another
boat, broke it loose from its anchor which resulted in it grounding itself
on a beach against a seawall with some damage to the fiberglass.  I had
already given the other boatowner $3K but apparently she smelled money
after she got a lawyer.  I went to court without a lawyer (the other side
had one).  The judge ruled that the black squall (microburst) was an act of
nature, that I had done everything reasonable to prevent the accident and
because the other boat had neglected to tie the end of their anchor line to
the boat (causing it to come loose from its anchor and hit the seawall) I
was not at all responsible for the resulting damage.  The boat owner did
not deposit my $3K check.

If I am asked somewhere if I have insurance I will say "yes".  I won't tell
them it is my car insurance I am talking about, but I don't do marinas and
the boatyard where I haul out for annual has not asked.  



Norm
S/V Bandersnatch
Lying Julington Creek FL
30 07.72N  081 38.4W


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (De Clarke)>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 1/11/2008 11:21:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] [SPAM]Re:  marine insurance in BC Canada?
>
> Norm of Bandersnatch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > If one lies while applying for insurance the insurance will be invalid
and damages not paid.
>
> well there are two reasons to have marine insurance.
>
> 1) to protect yourself against the financial loss of boat and
> contents
>
> 2a) to protect yourself against expensive claims made by others 
> whose boats or property are damaged by one's own misadventure 
> or misjudgement
>
> 2b) to fulfill requirements by litigation-happy marina owners
> who will not allow you to rent a slip w/o proof of insurance.
>
> insurance based on a falsified application would solve the 2b problem --
> and this problem may be spreading further and further around the world
> from the US, like a contagious disease :-(
>
> but it doesn't solve the other two problems, because as Norm points out,
> the insurance company will not pay up (and they are very good at finding
> reasons not to pay up, you betcha) if they discover that your application
> information was falsified.
>
> where I'm tied up right now they don't ask questions about insurance.
> living aboard I am less likely to suffer boat loss than an absentee owner.
> so I'm thinking maybe it's just a non-issue and I'll "self insure".
> theft of a dinghy is probably the most common financial hit for cruising
> boats, and my dinghy has no outboard and is not a desirable Avon or
> other RIB.  I can think of some other good uses for $500-$800 per annum.
>
> de
>
> __


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