On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 07:00:46PM -0400, Paul Brannon wrote:
> I'm not so sure.  Most internally regulated alternators seem to put out a 
> somewhat constant voltage charge and it is possibly too high voltage for AGM 
> (or Gel).
> 
> AGM and Gel can't be gassed under any circumstances.  I would 
> need to know the charge voltage of the internal regulator before saying it 
> is ok.

Just a personal opinion: internally regulated alternators and
live-aboard boats are kinda like matter and anti-matter. Yeah, you *can*
get energy out of the combination, but you might also accidentally
destroy the world. :)

http://xkcd.com/809/

(I *love* XKCD.)

> On my setup, I have Delco internally regulated alternators (94 amp) that I 
> bypassed the internal regulator and wired in an external Balmar regulator. 
> That way, I can get the alternator at any auto parts store and just change 
> the internal wiring.

Ditto here, for 150A star-wired Bosch alternators. First thing I did as
soon as they came on board is take out the regulators, cut that ground
strap across its base, solder two wires on either side of the cut, and
crimp matching lugs on the ends of the wires. If my external regulator
ever fails, I'll just plug the two together and live with it until I can
get the regulator (which also happens to be my welder) repaired or
replaced.

Had to do it once, some years ago, when the welder's wire harness died.
Worked just fine.

> I have not lost an alternator since the conversion 
> whereas before I went through two alternators on the inverter bank due to 
> overheating at low speed such as idling while retrieving anchor and then 
> slowly moving out of anchorages.  The partially discharged batteries are 
> asking for all the alternator has and it isn't spinning fast enough to keep 
> it cool.  The slower speed also reduces the amperage of charge but it still 
> heats up.

That's a very good thing to point out, Paul; I've seen a lot of people
destroy their systems that way over the years. Saw one recently where a
big 12v fan caught fire because of it and almost burned the boat down
(low voltage + motors: *bad* mix.) It's one of the places where a
variable-pitch prop setup like Norm's is a big win: you can spin your
engine as high as you want while maintaining minimum speed. The
alternator fan is spinning fast enough to cool things, the alternator is
pumping out max juice as you need it... nice. 
 

Ben
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