Thanks Tobias! The move to github will be a real boost for new
development.
Great move!
Devin
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Tobias Doerffel
<tobias.doerf...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> thank you all for your helpful and diverse input! I also agree with most
> of what has been said. Even though I do have time to contribute to LMMS I
> do not have the time for being the only primary developer, which has been a
> severe problem in the past. It's true that the Git repositories on
> Sourceforge are not very visible and thus it's hard to attract new
> developers, so I'd prefer the Github solution as well. To make an immediate
> start, I just created a development space on github.com/lmms with a
> repository at github.com/lmms/lmms (currently uploading branches).
> Hopefully this will ease collaborative development alot and allow easy
> management of pull requests. I'm willing to continue managing development
> on Github however I'd vote for choosing someone else as project manager who
> does not only coordinate development but all the aspects that were
> mentioned in this thread.
>
> Nevertheless this will not solve problems with patches which we simply
> can't accept due to the code quality. I know that much of the historically
> grown code is a mess too, but many patches in the past did not even meet
> basic coding style guidelines (
> http://lmms.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Guidelines_on_coding_style)
> and often the visual integration into the existing UI has not been
> satisfying. So what we definitely need is a team of UI designers!
>
> Another oberservation I recently made: rolling-releases are the only way
> to go. When we started the stable 0.4 series we branched off the master
> branch and basically overloaded it with new features and massive changes
> leading to a completely diverged source code base. Thus bug fixes to the
> stable-0.4 series began to be lost in the master branch. Today the master
> branch is a mess and IMHO it's not suitable for stabilization anymore. I
> therefore recently started to pick all the goodies from it and backport it
> to different branches based on the 0.4 series (done so far: improved
> undo/redo support, new FX mixer with sends etc.). This way we can stabilize
> features individually and merge them little by little into continuous
> releases. For the next release it's probably a good idea to stabilize what
> has been integrated recently. The release afterwards should integrate the
> improved undo/redo support, the new logo (I think proposal 2 in the
> discussion one year ago got the most votes) and maybe already the new FX
> mixer. I also like the proposal to rename SongEditor to Sequencer and
> B+B-Editor to "Pattern Editor". We need terminology consistency in other
> places as well (e.g. "tacts" -> "bars").
>
> What I'm planning to backport in the future (as it once has been developed
> by me):
>
> - new settings dialog
> - Resources framework for locality-independent usage of resources (audio
> files, project files, presets, ...)
> - welcome screen
> - new ProjectRenderer
>
> To be taken care of soon:
> - new UI concepts for abandoning most of the MDI stuff by making central
> components have a fixed place with easy collapsing possibilities
>
> About communication: for development purposes, I still prefer mailing
> lists over forums or similiar as management of messages etc. is much
> easier. As soon as the new development on Github is gaining momentum,
> certainly much of the communication will happen on this platform directly.
>
> As for the name I'd stick with LMMS as well but get rid of "Linux
> MultiMedia Studio". However I'd leave a final decision up to a new project
> manager and/or an extensive survey.
>
> One more thought: IMHO we never claimed LMMS to be a real professional
> DAW. We aim at hobby and semi-professional users. We surely can satisfy
> their needs if LMMS development gains new momentum this year.
>
> So far..
>
> Toby
>
>
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