Hey Mark, thanks for the reply. I wonder why JBuilder has all the market share. From my first exposure to my last (about 3 years worth), I was never very fond of it. Too bad school didn't have us use IDEA in the first place.
> (<caveat>Now I'm about to provoke another flame war! > :)</caveat>) He he he, its on :-) No, this list isn't the right place for a discussion of the merits (and demerits) of client side java gui's. However, in my humble opinion java on the client suffers from two things: 1) Lack of a good cross platform ui (metal laf just isn't very good) 2) Lack of gui component libraries. Swing does a good job of providing the basic stuff, but it took *years* before a spinner component showed up. Where's a login dialog? Where's the splash screen? Everybody has to come up with this stuff on their own, whereas with c++ we have some deep component trees from years of code investment. Ok, that's all. Not going to use up any more valuable log4j mailing list space for client side java :-) Richard __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]