Hey Mark, thanks for the reply.  I wonder why JBuilder
has all the market share.  From my first exposure to
my last (about 3 years worth), I was never very fond
of it.  Too bad school didn't have us use IDEA in the
first place.

> (<caveat>Now I'm about to provoke another flame war!
> :)</caveat>)

He he he, its on :-)  No, this list isn't the right
place for a discussion of the merits (and demerits) of
client side java gui's.  However, in my humble opinion
java on the client suffers from two things:

1) Lack of a good cross platform ui (metal laf just
isn't very good)
2) Lack of gui component libraries.  Swing does a good
job of providing the basic stuff, but it took *years*
before a spinner component showed up.  Where's a login
dialog?  Where's the splash screen?  Everybody has to
come up with this stuff on their own, whereas with c++
we have some deep component trees from years of code
investment.

Ok, that's all.  Not going to use up any more valuable
log4j mailing list space for client side java :-)

Richard

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