I'm not so sure the difference is so profound any
more.  I tried IDEA once, but didn't stick with it
very long (probably due to the fact that eclipse is
free :-)

I have heard of others who really liked IDEA.  Just
curious as to how long ago you guys tried eclipse (not
trying to start a flame war!)

And does IDEA have a gui builder?

Richard

--- Jim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll very heartily second that.  I've also used
> both, though the moment I
> have to type nonsense that the computer should take
> care of for me (eg,
> "import org.apache.log4j.Logger;") I go running back
> to IDEA as quickly as I
> can.  Nothing else I've seen is on the same planet
> with its Intentions
> functionality (the IntentionsPowerPack for the EAP
> just furthers that point)
> or very smart Live Templates, and even products that
> do nothing BUT
> refactoring don't even come close to what IDEA can
> do.  Not to mention its
> JUnit integration, etc.  Very, very sweet.  Eclipse
> is nice in a lot of
> ways, but it's just not in the same class when it
> comes to the day-to-day
> creation and maintenance of code.
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Masterson
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 5:07 PM
> To: Log4J Developers List
> Subject: RE: Out of commission
> 
> 
> I like Eclipse, but I like IDEA better.  IDEA isn't
> as well known, and it
> costs some money (although nothing like the insane
> prices JBilder demands),
> but the OTI people (I know one of them, from the
> shop in Switzerland, who
> I've met a few times here in Germany) will tell you
> that IDEA is the only
> IDE on the market that they consider as worthy
> competition.  IDEA also has a
> number of famous evangelists, the most notable
> probably being Martin Fowler.
>  
> I find that very few Eclipse zealots have ever tried
> IDEA, but that the
> reverse is true of IDEA zealots - that is, most IDEA
> zealots seem to have
> tried Eclipse as well, and like IDEA better.  I
> suspect that means
> something.  :-)
>  
> I am more productive with IDEA than any other IDE
> I've ever tried.  You
> really ought to take a look at it, if you've got the
> time.
>  
> http://www.intellij.com/idea/
> <http://www.intellij.com/idea/> 
>  
> Cheers,
> Mark
> 


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