I would really like to go but if I do I would have to take the days as unpaid 
time off + the costs of the conference. That's one downside in going from a big 
company to a very small one.  I had hoped I would be able to present at the 
conference since I'm very proud of what I've been working on for the last 4 
years and even more, all the awesome work you guys have done.

Nick, if you are the only one who can attend I am confident you will do a great 
job.  If you would like any information to include in the presentation I would 
be happy to help.

Ralph

> On Jan 28, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Nick Williams <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's right now. 
> Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money is an issue getting 
> committers to come and lead talks, the Travel Assistance Committee will do 
> everything it can to help you get there. Email them at [email protected].
> 
> I'm definitely going and I'll submit a CFP as well. I'm open to suggestions. 
> Let's try to get 3-5 good Apache Logging talks in from different people! If 
> we can get two PMC members to come, we can even have a summit, which would be 
> great exposure! We need to coordinate so that we're covering different topics 
> and not stepping on each other.
> 
> I NEED A ROOMMATE AND YOU DO, TOO! Hotel is the biggest expense for 
> this--more than flights and committer registration combined. I'm looking for 
> someone who wants to go and is willing to share a hotel room and split the 
> cost. If we can get 4 Logging guys there, we can use just 2 hotel rooms and 
> save a bunch of money. I plan on flying in Sunday night and checking out of 
> the hotel Friday morning--that's five nights. If someone can only share the 
> hotel for 3 nights, we can split the price accordingly.
> 
> Inline below I have included the answers I got to some questions I asked Rich.
> 
> I hope some of you will come to ApacheCon with me! It'll be a great 
> opportunity to publicize Log4j 2.0 GA!
> 
> Nick
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nick Williams wrote:
>> 
>> - What exactly is a project summit?
> 
> Rich: Some projects are taking the opportunity to have a "summit" of one kind 
> or another, to do sprints on features, or to discuss the direction of the 
> project, or to do bug triage, or whatever. A project summit is whatever you 
> want to make it, if two or more members of the PMC are together in a room to 
> make it happen.
> 
>> - What exactly is a tutorial and how is it different from a talk on the 
>> normal days?
> 
> Rich: A talk is 50 minutes. A tutorial is 3 hours. That's the main 
> difference. A tutorial is usually more indepth, with hands-on elements - more 
> of a training class than an overview.
> 
>> I noticed the fee is normally $799 (until Friday, then $1099), but it's $275 
>> for "committers." That means that anyone who's a committer on any Apache 
>> project whatsoever /only/ pays $275 to attend the entire conference, right?
> 
> Rich: That's correct.
> 
>> 
>> The registration page says there is an additional fee for tutorials on April 
>> 10th: "$399 for ½ day tutorials ($299 for students) and $749 for full day 
>> tutorials (students and attendees)." What it doesn't say is:
>> 1) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 10th for /committers/?
> 
> Rich: Yes, tutorials have a fee for everyone.
> 
>> 2) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 11th for anyone (it 
>> only mentions April 10th, but the schedule shows tutorials on April 11th as 
>> well)?
> 
> Rich: We'll get that fixed.
> 
>> 3) Is there an additional fee for project summits on April 10th or 11th?
> 
> Rich: Project summits are usually open to anyone interested in the project, 
> and no extra fee is charged.
> 
>> It says they will have 5-9 tracks going on this year. I assume that means 
>> 5-9 conference rooms (based on the # of CFPs submitted), which means 5-9 
>> simultaneous talks can occur.
> 
> Rich: That is correct.
> 
>> It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on Apache 
>> Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of Apache 
>> Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks?
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would like to attend but I’m not sure I can.
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to remind you ApacheCon is happening in April 2014.
>>>> If you would like to submit your talk, now is the chance.
>>>> 
>>>> I think it would be great to have somebody presenting our Logging 
>>>> frameworks.
>>>> I will not be there unfortunately.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Christian
>>>> 
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