On Jan 30, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > On 30 January 2014 18:01, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: > Matt, > > Do you want to share a hotel room? I know it would certainly help my finances > to split one, and depending on whether you get employer support, it should > probably help yours as well. I'm planning on being there all five days > (staying in the hotel Sunday night through Thursday night)—you? > > Sharing a hotel room sounds like a good idea. I'm not sure on which days I'll > be there, but it would most likely be almost if not the same ones.
Okay. I'm registering and booking my travel tomorrow (Friday, which I guess is actually today now). Should I book the hotel, too, and then you can just pay me for your part depending on how many nights we split it? That arrangement. works fine for me. By the way, I'm in central time, which is why the website say America/Chicago. I'm actually in Nashville, though. > > I was planning on putting together several CFPs. Originally I was thinking > about these four: > > - An Intro to Log4j 2.0: A New Generation of Apache Logging > - Log4j 2 in Web Applications: A Deeper Look at Effective Java EE Logging > - Logging to Relational and NoSQL Databases with Log4j 2 > - Extending Log4j 2: Writing Custom Appenders, Filters, and Layouts > > I really like those ideas. You've effectively modularized all the ideas I had > for CFPs. I'd be interested in doing any of those, but I have the least > experience with the myriad Java EE technologies out of those four. Why don't you write up a CFP for the first and fourth ones? Be sure to include the performance studies mentioned on the website and information about the Levels and their extensibility, the logger interfaces, etc. in the first one. I'll write up the CFPs for the second and third one. Before we submit them, let's trade them with each other for review, proofreading, and comments. How about we plan on exchanging them about 6 p.m. CST Friday evening and then submitting them by 10 p.m. CST Friday evening. Sound good? Look forward to working with you on representing Log4j at ApacheCon. Nick > > Before you write up your CFPs, lets coordinate and come to a consensus on > which of us is doing which CFP. Having two people there covering Log4j would > be great! > > I've only drafted out a couple ideas so far, but they match up with one as > your first one, and the other a union of the remaining. > Nick > > On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > > I know I'm not a committer (yet), but I would be interested in doing a talk > > on logging. I'll see if I can get employer support as well. Is anyone else > > interested in putting together a CFP or two? I'd like to cover the neat new > > features in log4j, why we're more awesome than SLF4J, how to use logging > > effectively (e.g., using aspects to inject trace logging, using informative > > log messages, effective usage of the API, when to use different levels, > > using markers, complex logging configurations, etc), how to help make log4j > > compatible with other logging APIs not already implemented, creating > > additional components (I.e., appenders, filters, layouts, etc.), and many > > other ideas. Obviously that's too much to cover in one talk, but it's a > > good place to start examining what topics to cover and at what levels of > > expertise. > > > > Matt Sicker > > > >> On Jan 28, 2014, at 11:29, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's right > >> now. Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money is an issue getting > >> committers to come and lead talks, the Travel Assistance Committee will do > >> everything it can to help you get there. Email them at t...@apache.org. > >> > >> I'm definitely going and I'll submit a CFP as well. I'm open to > >> suggestions. Let's try to get 3-5 good Apache Logging talks in from > >> different people! If we can get two PMC members to come, we can even have > >> a summit, which would be great exposure! We need to coordinate so that > >> we're covering different topics and not stepping on each other. > >> > >> I NEED A ROOMMATE AND YOU DO, TOO! Hotel is the biggest expense for > >> this--more than flights and committer registration combined. I'm looking > >> for someone who wants to go and is willing to share a hotel room and split > >> the cost. If we can get 4 Logging guys there, we can use just 2 hotel > >> rooms and save a bunch of money. I plan on flying in Sunday night and > >> checking out of the hotel Friday morning--that's five nights. If someone > >> can only share the hotel for 3 nights, we can split the price accordingly. > >> > >> Inline below I have included the answers I got to some questions I asked > >> Rich. > >> > >> I hope some of you will come to ApacheCon with me! It'll be a great > >> opportunity to publicize Log4j 2.0 GA! > >> > >> Nick > >> > >>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nick Williams wrote: > >>> > >>> - What exactly is a project summit? > >> > >> Rich: Some projects are taking the opportunity to have a "summit" of one > >> kind or another, to do sprints on features, or to discuss the direction of > >> the project, or to do bug triage, or whatever. A project summit is > >> whatever you want to make it, if two or more members of the PMC are > >> together in a room to make it happen. > >> > >>> - What exactly is a tutorial and how is it different from a talk on the > >>> normal days? > >> > >> Rich: A talk is 50 minutes. A tutorial is 3 hours. That's the main > >> difference. A tutorial is usually more indepth, with hands-on elements - > >> more of a training class than an overview. > >> > >>> I noticed the fee is normally $799 (until Friday, then $1099), but it's > >>> $275 for "committers." That means that anyone who's a committer on any > >>> Apache project whatsoever /only/ pays $275 to attend the entire > >>> conference, right? > >> > >> Rich: That's correct. > >> > >>> > >>> The registration page says there is an additional fee for tutorials on > >>> April 10th: "$399 for ½ day tutorials ($299 for students) and $749 for > >>> full day tutorials (students and attendees)." What it doesn't say is: > >>> 1) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 10th for > >>> /committers/? > >> > >> Rich: Yes, tutorials have a fee for everyone. > >> > >>> 2) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 11th for anyone (it > >>> only mentions April 10th, but the schedule shows tutorials on April 11th > >>> as well)? > >> > >> Rich: We'll get that fixed. > >> > >>> 3) Is there an additional fee for project summits on April 10th or 11th? > >> > >> Rich: Project summits are usually open to anyone interested in the > >> project, and no extra fee is charged. > >> > >>> It says they will have 5-9 tracks going on this year. I assume that means > >>> 5-9 conference rooms (based on the # of CFPs submitted), which means 5-9 > >>> simultaneous talks can occur. > >> > >> Rich: That is correct. > >> > >>> It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on Apache > >>> Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of Apache > >>> Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks? > >>> > >>> Nick > >>> > >>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I would like to attend but I’m not sure I can. > >>>> > >>>> Ralph > >>>> > >>>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi folks, > >>>>> > >>>>> I would like to remind you ApacheCon is happening in April 2014. > >>>>> If you would like to submit your talk, now is the chance. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think it would be great to have somebody presenting our Logging > >>>>> frameworks. > >>>>> I will not be there unfortunately. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> Christian > >>>>> > >>>>> --- > >>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de > >>>>> The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL > >>>>> @grobmeier > >>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > > > > -- > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
