FWIW, I wouldn’t compare SLF4J against Log4j. SLF4J is just an API where we provide a full implementation. The main alternatives are java.util.Logging (aka JUL), Logback, and Log4j 1.x. if you search you will find a few others too.
I would think you should submit 2 proposals and split your talks into an intro to Log4j 2 and then a how-to session. I will be glad to help in any way I can. Ralph On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: > Please don't wait any longer Matt. > > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america/program/cfp > Submission must arrive before (!) 1.02. and they will not extend this > deadline. > > However you talk sounds good. Just from experience, people are sometimes setup > when they hear they should move their facade from slf4j to log4j2 again. Be > prepared > to have good arguments > > Any great if you could submit a proposal! > > On 30 Jan 2014, at 15:42, Matt Sicker wrote: > >> I know I'm not a committer (yet), but I would be interested in doing a talk >> on logging. I'll see if I can get employer support as well. Is anyone else >> interested in putting together a CFP or two? I'd like to cover the neat new >> features in log4j, why we're more awesome than SLF4J, how to use logging >> effectively (e.g., using aspects to inject trace logging, using informative >> log messages, effective usage of the API, when to use different levels, >> using markers, complex logging configurations, etc), how to help make log4j >> compatible with other logging APIs not already implemented, creating >> additional components (I.e., appenders, filters, layouts, etc.), and many >> other ideas. Obviously that's too much to cover in one talk, but it's a good >> place to start examining what topics to cover and at what levels of >> expertise. >> >> Matt Sicker >> >>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 11:29, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's right >>> now. Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money is an issue getting >>> committers to come and lead talks, the Travel Assistance Committee will do >>> everything it can to help you get there. Email them at t...@apache.org. >>> >>> I'm definitely going and I'll submit a CFP as well. I'm open to >>> suggestions. Let's try to get 3-5 good Apache Logging talks in from >>> different people! If we can get two PMC members to come, we can even have a >>> summit, which would be great exposure! We need to coordinate so that we're >>> covering different topics and not stepping on each other. >>> >>> I NEED A ROOMMATE AND YOU DO, TOO! Hotel is the biggest expense for >>> this--more than flights and committer registration combined. I'm looking >>> for someone who wants to go and is willing to share a hotel room and split >>> the cost. If we can get 4 Logging guys there, we can use just 2 hotel rooms >>> and save a bunch of money. I plan on flying in Sunday night and checking >>> out of the hotel Friday morning--that's five nights. If someone can only >>> share the hotel for 3 nights, we can split the price accordingly. >>> >>> Inline below I have included the answers I got to some questions I asked >>> Rich. >>> >>> I hope some of you will come to ApacheCon with me! It'll be a great >>> opportunity to publicize Log4j 2.0 GA! >>> >>> Nick >>> >>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nick Williams wrote: >>>> >>>> - What exactly is a project summit? >>> >>> Rich: Some projects are taking the opportunity to have a "summit" of one >>> kind or another, to do sprints on features, or to discuss the direction of >>> the project, or to do bug triage, or whatever. A project summit is whatever >>> you want to make it, if two or more members of the PMC are together in a >>> room to make it happen. >>> >>>> - What exactly is a tutorial and how is it different from a talk on the >>>> normal days? >>> >>> Rich: A talk is 50 minutes. A tutorial is 3 hours. That's the main >>> difference. A tutorial is usually more indepth, with hands-on elements - >>> more of a training class than an overview. >>> >>>> I noticed the fee is normally $799 (until Friday, then $1099), but it's >>>> $275 for "committers." That means that anyone who's a committer on any >>>> Apache project whatsoever /only/ pays $275 to attend the entire >>>> conference, right? >>> >>> Rich: That's correct. >>> >>>> >>>> The registration page says there is an additional fee for tutorials on >>>> April 10th: "$399 for ½ day tutorials ($299 for students) and $749 for >>>> full day tutorials (students and attendees)." What it doesn't say is: >>>> 1) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 10th for /committers/? >>> >>> Rich: Yes, tutorials have a fee for everyone. >>> >>>> 2) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 11th for anyone (it >>>> only mentions April 10th, but the schedule shows tutorials on April 11th >>>> as well)? >>> >>> Rich: We'll get that fixed. >>> >>>> 3) Is there an additional fee for project summits on April 10th or 11th? >>> >>> Rich: Project summits are usually open to anyone interested in the project, >>> and no extra fee is charged. >>> >>>> It says they will have 5-9 tracks going on this year. I assume that means >>>> 5-9 conference rooms (based on the # of CFPs submitted), which means 5-9 >>>> simultaneous talks can occur. >>> >>> Rich: That is correct. >>> >>>> It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on Apache >>>> Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of Apache >>>> Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks? >>>> >>>> Nick >>>> >>>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I would like to attend but I’m not sure I can. >>>>> >>>>> Ralph >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to remind you ApacheCon is happening in April 2014. >>>>>> If you would like to submit your talk, now is the chance. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it would be great to have somebody presenting our Logging >>>>>> frameworks. >>>>>> I will not be there unfortunately. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Christian >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>>> The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL >>>>>> @grobmeier >>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > > --- > http://www.grobmeier.de > The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL > @grobmeier > GPG: 0xA5CC90DB > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org
