On 30 January 2014 18:01, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net>wrote:
> Matt, > > Do you want to share a hotel room? I know it would certainly help my > finances to split one, and depending on whether you get employer support, > it should probably help yours as well. I'm planning on being there all five > days (staying in the hotel Sunday night through Thursday night)—you? > > Sharing a hotel room sounds like a good idea. I'm not sure on which days I'll be there, but it would most likely be almost if not the same ones. > I was planning on putting together several CFPs. Originally I was thinking > about these four: > > - An Intro to Log4j 2.0: A New Generation of Apache Logging > - Log4j 2 in Web Applications: A Deeper Look at Effective Java EE Logging > - Logging to Relational and NoSQL Databases with Log4j 2 > - Extending Log4j 2: Writing Custom Appenders, Filters, and Layouts > > I really like those ideas. You've effectively modularized all the ideas I had for CFPs. I'd be interested in doing any of those, but I have the least experience with the myriad Java EE technologies out of those four. > Before you write up your CFPs, lets coordinate and come to a consensus on > which of us is doing which CFP. Having two people there covering Log4j > would be great! > > I've only drafted out a couple ideas so far, but they match up with one as your first one, and the other a union of the remaining. > Nick > > On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > > I know I'm not a committer (yet), but I would be interested in doing a > talk on logging. I'll see if I can get employer support as well. Is anyone > else interested in putting together a CFP or two? I'd like to cover the > neat new features in log4j, why we're more awesome than SLF4J, how to use > logging effectively (e.g., using aspects to inject trace logging, using > informative log messages, effective usage of the API, when to use different > levels, using markers, complex logging configurations, etc), how to help > make log4j compatible with other logging APIs not already implemented, > creating additional components (I.e., appenders, filters, layouts, etc.), > and many other ideas. Obviously that's too much to cover in one talk, but > it's a good place to start examining what topics to cover and at what > levels of expertise. > > > > Matt Sicker > > > >> On Jan 28, 2014, at 11:29, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> > wrote: > >> > >> Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's right > now. Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money is an issue getting > committers to come and lead talks, the Travel Assistance Committee will do > everything it can to help you get there. Email them at t...@apache.org. > >> > >> I'm definitely going and I'll submit a CFP as well. I'm open to > suggestions. Let's try to get 3-5 good Apache Logging talks in from > different people! If we can get two PMC members to come, we can even have a > summit, which would be great exposure! We need to coordinate so that we're > covering different topics and not stepping on each other. > >> > >> I NEED A ROOMMATE AND YOU DO, TOO! Hotel is the biggest expense for > this--more than flights and committer registration combined. I'm looking > for someone who wants to go and is willing to share a hotel room and split > the cost. If we can get 4 Logging guys there, we can use just 2 hotel rooms > and save a bunch of money. I plan on flying in Sunday night and checking > out of the hotel Friday morning--that's five nights. If someone can only > share the hotel for 3 nights, we can split the price accordingly. > >> > >> Inline below I have included the answers I got to some questions I > asked Rich. > >> > >> I hope some of you will come to ApacheCon with me! It'll be a great > opportunity to publicize Log4j 2.0 GA! > >> > >> Nick > >> > >>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nick Williams wrote: > >>> > >>> - What exactly is a project summit? > >> > >> Rich: Some projects are taking the opportunity to have a "summit" of > one kind or another, to do sprints on features, or to discuss the direction > of the project, or to do bug triage, or whatever. A project summit is > whatever you want to make it, if two or more members of the PMC are > together in a room to make it happen. > >> > >>> - What exactly is a tutorial and how is it different from a talk on > the normal days? > >> > >> Rich: A talk is 50 minutes. A tutorial is 3 hours. That's the main > difference. A tutorial is usually more indepth, with hands-on elements - > more of a training class than an overview. > >> > >>> I noticed the fee is normally $799 (until Friday, then $1099), but > it's $275 for "committers." That means that anyone who's a committer on any > Apache project whatsoever /only/ pays $275 to attend the entire conference, > right? > >> > >> Rich: That's correct. > >> > >>> > >>> The registration page says there is an additional fee for tutorials on > April 10th: "$399 for ½ day tutorials ($299 for students) and $749 for full > day tutorials (students and attendees)." What it doesn't say is: > >>> 1) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 10th for > /committers/? > >> > >> Rich: Yes, tutorials have a fee for everyone. > >> > >>> 2) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 11th for anyone > (it only mentions April 10th, but the schedule shows tutorials on April > 11th as well)? > >> > >> Rich: We'll get that fixed. > >> > >>> 3) Is there an additional fee for project summits on April 10th or > 11th? > >> > >> Rich: Project summits are usually open to anyone interested in the > project, and no extra fee is charged. > >> > >>> It says they will have 5-9 tracks going on this year. I assume that > means 5-9 conference rooms (based on the # of CFPs submitted), which means > 5-9 simultaneous talks can occur. > >> > >> Rich: That is correct. > >> > >>> It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on > Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of > Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks? > >>> > >>> Nick > >>> > >>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I would like to attend but I’m not sure I can. > >>>> > >>>> Ralph > >>>> > >>>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier < > grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi folks, > >>>>> > >>>>> I would like to remind you ApacheCon is happening in April 2014. > >>>>> If you would like to submit your talk, now is the chance. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think it would be great to have somebody presenting our Logging > frameworks. > >>>>> I will not be there unfortunately. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> Christian > >>>>> > >>>>> --- > >>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de > >>>>> The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL > >>>>> @grobmeier > >>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org > > -- Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>