Although logo D “won” in the STV results below (and it was my first choice), I 
think A should actually be the winner. So no, I don’t think we are good yet.

Ralph


On Jun 6, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So we're good then? Logo D?
> 
> 
> On 6 June 2014 16:15, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> I don’t think a runoff is needed. If you look at round 2 in the STV results 
> it looks to me that H should have been eliminated instead of A.
> 
> Ralph
> 
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'd support A in the case of a run-off vote. It has a number 2 in it rather 
>> subtly :)
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 June 2014 15:45, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6 Jun 2014, at 22:13, Paul Benedict wrote:
>> By nonbonding, Ralph means to say there is no secured money behind my vote.
>> 
>> hahaha :-) It took me almost a minute to find the joke :)
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I should also add that the results below do not include Paul’s nonbonding
>> vote. He selected A as his top choice which would have given it the most
>> first place votes.
>> 
>> As the "winner" of this contest I would like to offer to reconsider.
>> When I look on the votes below, it looks like some of the voters really 
>> dislike
>> my version of the logo - its more love or hate it.
>> 
>> Logo A on the other side seems to be "Ok" for most of us, some liking it more
>> than others.
>> 
>> With that being said, I would prefer to have a logo which works for us "most"
>> than one which is loved by 50% and hated by the other 50%.
>> 
>> In addition I think Murads logo is more artistic than mine.
>> 
>> Now, if others agree I would be fine with:
>> 
>>  - just choosing A as it feels more like a real consensus
>>  - doing a A vs D vote to make sure what people want
>> 
>> I know this was maybe not covered by the rules, if you see that the "winner"
>> has no problem with a run off vote... personally I think we should do that.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Christian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Below are the results from STV as calculated by
>> http://paul-lockett.co.uk/stv.html.  This indicates that D is the winning
>> logo.  However, after looking at the votes it isn’t clear to me why A isn’t
>> the winner as it had more first and second place votes.  also, if you go
>> through the votes and rank A and D based on which is ranked highest in each
>> vote you would get A - 4,  D - 3.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>> 
>> SINGLE TRANSFERABLE VOTE COUNTER
>> *Candidates=9 Seats=1 Votes=7 Quota=3.5*
>> 
>> Raw votes
>> vote 1: (D) (A) (B) (I) (E) (F) (H) (G) (C)
>> vote 2: (D) (B) (A) (H) (C) (I) (E) (F) (G)
>> vote 3: (H) (E) (F) (A) (B) (C) (I) (G) (D)
>> vote 4: (G) (C) (D) (I) (H) (F) (A) (B) (E)
>> vote 5: (H) (G) (I) (A) (E) (F) (B) (D) (C)
>> vote 6: (A) (C) (B) (H) (G) (D) (I) (E) (F)
>> vote 7: (A) (B) (D) (H) (C) (E) (F) (G) (I)
>> *Round 1 votes*
>> 
>> vote 1: (D) (A) (B) (I) (E) (F) (H) (G) (C) vote value = 1
>> vote 2: (D) (B) (A) (H) (C) (I) (E) (F) (G) vote value = 1
>> vote 3: (H) (E) (F) (A) (B) (C) (I) (G) (D) vote value = 1
>> vote 4: (G) (C) (D) (I) (H) (F) (A) (B) (E) vote value = 1
>> vote 5: (H) (G) (I) (A) (E) (F) (B) (D) (C) vote value = 1
>> vote 6: (A) (C) (B) (H) (G) (D) (I) (E) (F) vote value = 1
>> vote 7: (A) (B) (D) (H) (C) (E) (F) (G) (I) vote value = 1
>> A = 2
>> B = 0
>> C = 0
>> D = 2
>> E = 0
>> F = 0
>> G = 1
>> H = 2
>> I = 0
>> 
>> Fewest votes won by a candidate = 1.
>> Number of candidates with the fewest votes = 1.
>> G is eliminated.
>> *Round 2 votes*
>> 
>> vote 1: (D) (A) (H) vote value = 1
>> vote 2: (D) (A) (H) vote value = 1
>> vote 3: (H) (A) (D) vote value = 1
>> vote 4: (D) (H) (A) vote value = 1
>> vote 5: (H) (A) (D) vote value = 1
>> vote 6: (A) (H) (D) vote value = 1
>> vote 7: (A) (D) (H) vote value = 1
>> A = 2
>> B = 0
>> C = 0
>> D = 3
>> E = 0
>> F = 0
>> G = 0
>> H = 2
>> I = 0
>> 
>> Fewest votes won by a candidate = 2.
>> Number of candidates with the fewest votes = 2.
>> The tiebreaker loser is A.
>> A is eliminated.
>> *Round 3 votes*
>> 
>> vote 1: (D) (H) vote value = 1
>> vote 2: (D) (H) vote value = 1
>> vote 3: (H) (D) vote value = 1
>> vote 4: (D) (H) vote value = 1
>> vote 5: (H) (D) vote value = 1
>> vote 6: (H) (D) vote value = 1
>> vote 7: (D) (H) vote value = 1
>> A = 0
>> B = 0
>> C = 0
>> D = 4
>> E = 0
>> F = 0
>> G = 0
>> H = 3
>> I = 0
>> 
>> Most votes currently held by a candidate = 4.
>> Number of candidates with the greatest number of votes = 1.
>> D has exceeded the quota and is elected. If there are seats remaining to
>> be filled, the surplus will now be reallocated.
>> *The election is complete and the elected candidates are (D).*
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My vote: ABDHCEFGI
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> On 3 Jun 2014, at 22:08, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> 
>> It is time to select a logo. The list of candidates can be found at
>> https://wiki.apache.org/logging/Log4jLogoNominations as those having at
>> least two supporters and are arbitrarily identified as A through I.
>> 
>> This vote will use STV to calculate the results.  This means your vote
>> should consist of from 1 to 9 letters identifying the logos in order of
>> preference from first to last.
>> 
>> The key idea to keep in mind is that the ordering of your votes is
>> crucial. Those who you *really* want to be elected should be at the
>> beginning/start of the list. For example:
>> 
>> Aragorn, Frodo, Bilbo, Sam, Sauron, Gandalf, Treebeard, Gollum, Gimli
>> 
>> means that you really want Aragorn to be elected (he’s your primary
>> preferred person), followed by Frodo (you want Frodo on the board more than
>> you want Bilbo, Sam and Sauron, but not as much as you want Aragorn),
>> followed by Bilbo, etc…
>> 
>> In this vote only the top logo will be selected but STV will identify the
>> winner using all the votes.
>> 
>> This vote will remain open for 72 hours. In accordance with the rules
>> listed in LOG4J2-316 votes of all Logging committers are binding.
>> 
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