Sure.

Ralph

> On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Mikael Ståldal <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Can it still depend on log4-api version 2.5 then?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I’d actually suggest using a version that has nothing to do with Log4j’s 
> versioning at this point. For example 0.9 is a great way to let people know 
> it isn’t GA.
> 
> Ralph
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Matt Sicker <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure you can use different versions for different modules. We 
>> just keep the same version across the project. Making it 2.5-beta1 sounds 
>> fine to me.
>> 
>> On 14 December 2015 at 03:00, Mikael Ståldal <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> My intention is to make a public release, which is easily accessible 
>> (binaries through Maven central), but mark it as preview somehow to be able 
>> to get some feedback before we commit to a final API.
>> 
>> I would prefer if we could use the same group and artifact names as in the 
>> final, but include something in the version which marks it as preview. Such 
>> as "2.5-beta1"
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> I believe I could run the release plugin against just his module, but I have 
>> never tried that. Or the process could be done manually.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 11:44 PM, Remko Popma <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I thought Mikael's intention was to make the scala module part of the next 
>>> release, while somehow marking it as experimental so that we can still make 
>>> changes to the API depending on user feedback. 
>>> 
>>> I don't mind either way, but is there any way to release only the scala 
>>> module?
>>> 
>>> Remko 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2015/12/12, at 14:56, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If it builds by default it will be part of the next release, which I am 
>>>> not certain is assured yet.  I think that is why he wants to release it 
>>>> separately.
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Remko Popma <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm assuming that Mikael has verified some use cases on the dev branch, 
>>>>> so it should be okay to build this module by default. No need for setting 
>>>>> up a separate profile AFAIC. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 9:43, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> That seems like a bit of a pain. It would be better to specify the 
>>>>>> classifier as experimental but you can’t do that in the pom as I recall. 
>>>>>> I think you have to specify the project as of type pom and then use the 
>>>>>> maven helper plugin to attach it as an artifact with a classifier.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OTOH, the artifact name could be log4j-scala-experimental.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Should the package name include ".experimental." ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Ralph Goers 
>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> That is true.  In fact, we could add an “experimental" profile to the 
>>>>>>> parent pom that has the experimental modules in it. They wouldn’t have 
>>>>>>> to build by default.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Remko Popma <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why not just put it on master and _document_ it as "experimental, 
>>>>>>>> feedback requested". 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That way we simply use our existing release process and instead of 
>>>>>>>> 2.5.1, our next release would be 2.6. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2015/12/12, at 3:05, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> With SVN we had a separate branch for experimental stuff.  In fact, 
>>>>>>>>> that is where Log4j 2 originated.  I am not sure how to do the same 
>>>>>>>>> thing with git.  If you have an account at github you could put the 
>>>>>>>>> project there. But we really can’t publish anything officially from 
>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you have a proposal on how to do this please let us know.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I do not really know that it means to do RM stuff for Log4j.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be enough to release the Scala modules, and let 
>>>>>>>>>> them depend on Log4j API 2.5, if that is possible.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Seems fine with me. Label it 2.6-beta1? Mikael, are you feeling up 
>>>>>>>>>> to trying your hand at RM duties?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Should we release just these Scala modules as 2.6-beta1 or the whole 
>>>>>>>>>> suite?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> So can we release some Scala API preview now when 2.5 is out?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2015 6:05 AM, "Ralph Goers" <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > It would make more sense to me to release the scala beta as a 
>>>>>>>>>> > single separate module. Then integrate it once you are sure.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Speaking of a release I am happy to start the release today if we 
>>>>>>>>>> > are ready.  I just want to review the delete stuff Remko just 
>>>>>>>>>> > added.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Ralph
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> Maybe we could release 2.5 ASAP and the do a 2.6-beta _at the 
>>>>>>>>>> >> same time_ with the Scala modules.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Gary
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:31 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" 
>>>>>>>>>> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> How should we proceed on this? It would be good to be able to 
>>>>>>>>>> >>> release some beta or preview version of this and get some 
>>>>>>>>>> >>> feedback from Scala developers before we make the API final.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Ralph Goers 
>>>>>>>>>> >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> The artifact name does not have to match the directory name. 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> However, we were advised that they should or else some of the 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Maven plugins might have problems. I think the site plugin was 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> one of them.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> I know you can change the artifact name via <finalName> or 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 15:52, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> It does in all the maven projects i know. I think certain 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> maven behaviors relies on this...
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2015 1:21 PM, "Matt Sicker" <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The folder name doesn't have to match the module name I 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> thought.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 04:23, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, look at branch LOG4J-1181 in Git.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My plan is to add log4j-scala_2.10 as well.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right, so the Maven module folder name will be like that 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> too, right?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, Scala does not maintain binary compatibility between 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> major versions. There is a convention for encoding this 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> into Maven artifact IDs, it will be: "log4j-scala_2.10", 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "log4j-scala_2.11" etc.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Matt Sicker 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like it could be handy.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 26 October 2015 at 12:29, Gary Gregory 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep on hearing that Scala suffers from a lot 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility issues from version to version. Would is 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> make sense to tag on a version to the module to account 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for this, like log4j-scala-2.11.7?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am thinking of making a log4j module, "log4j-scala", 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a Scala wrapper for Log4j 2, inspired from
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/typesafehub/scala-logging>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that make sense?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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