I've already asked Ralph and now Gary, but let me pose the question openly instead. Would any of you be interested in doing an online presentation for Illinois JUG? Here's our meetup group: < http://www.meetup.com/illinoisJUGvirtual/>. I did a lightning talk about async logging (and a little bit on garbage-free logging), and people seemed very interested. I'm thinking of doing my own full presentation eventually on other features I'm more familiar with, too, but I might just do those in-person instead of online.
Presentations normally take place at noon central time and go for an hour. On 13 June 2016 at 10:08, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've done an in person preso at two JUG in Southern California that were > well received. I did not think of recording them for YouTube though. > > Promoting within Apache and especially new projects would help IMO. > > I've also seen that folks do not know that Log4j 2 has a new modern > architecture with an API. Better text on various sites like wikipedia and > our own logging landing site might help. > > Gary > On Jun 13, 2016 7:56 AM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Oh, another thing that would help is doing presentations on log4j. Myself >> and a few others run a virtual java user group (and an in-person one) in >> Illinois that accepts presenters from around the world for instance. Then >> there's the London VirtualJUG as well which is super popular. Plus any >> local JUGs. >> >> On 13 June 2016 at 09:54, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I've noticed a big problem is that people don't realize you can use >>> log4j-api the same way you would normally use slf4j-api. Plus it doesn't >>> help that tons of Apache projects are using SLF4J which makes it a sort of >>> tacit endorsement of it over log4j-api. >>> >>> Some attention on sites like Reddit or StackOverflow might help. >>> >>> On 13 June 2016 at 09:52, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In spite of the fact that Log4j 2 has a very compelling story in terms >>>> of feature set and performance, I get the impression that adoption is quite >>>> slow. I could be wrong, but how many open source projects use Log4j 2? Or >>>> even how many Apache projects? >>>> >>>> I propose we try to generate some ideas about what we can do to >>>> increase our uptake. Some things I've been thinking about: >>>> >>>> * Rewrite the Wikipedia page on Log4j >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log4j>. It's mostly about Log4j 1.2 and >>>> mentions Log4j 2 at the bottom in a footnote. That needs to be the other >>>> way around in my opinion. The Wikipedia Java logging framework >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_logging_framework> page is even >>>> worse. >>>> * The Apache Logging site <https://logging.apache.org/> has no >>>> explicit mention that Log4j 1 is EOL. >>>> * Only the top page on the Log4j 1 site >>>> <https://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/> mentions that the project is >>>> EOL, but it does so in two modest sentences that don't visually stick out >>>> and are easily ignored. At the very least the download page needs a mention >>>> of the EOL and a link to the Log4j 2 project, but it may be good to have a >>>> notification on every page. >>>> * Can we get other people involved in evangelizing log4j 2? It would be >>>> great if we can make more people enthusiastic so they write blog posts or >>>> tutorials etc about Log4j 2. >>>> * How can we incentivise people to convert their project to Log4j 2? >>>> Maybe start a page on Projects Using Log4j 2 and mention people who did the >>>> conversion by name? Or some other way? >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> Remko >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >> > -- Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
