It would be 12:00 Central Time which would be midnight for you. In your
case, though, doing a presentation on vJUG24 <
http://www.meetup.com/virtualJUG/events/230866327/> might work rather well
as it's international at all times of the day and night.

On 18 June 2016 at 18:11, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:18 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've already asked Ralph and now Gary, but let me pose the question
>> openly instead. Would any of you be interested in doing an online
>> presentation for Illinois JUG? Here's our meetup group: <
>> http://www.meetup.com/illinoisJUGvirtual/>.
>>
> I did a lightning talk about async logging (and a little bit on
>> garbage-free logging), and people seemed very interested. I'm thinking of
>> doing my own full presentation eventually on other features I'm more
>> familiar with, too, but I might just do those in-person instead of online.
>>
>> Presentations normally take place at noon central time and go for an hour.
>>
> Would love to but 12:00 Eastern Time (ET) is 1:00 AM Japan Standard Time
> (JST) so maybe not realistic. I should start working on a presentation
> though.
>
>
>>
>> On 13 June 2016 at 10:08, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've done an in person preso at two JUG in Southern California that were
>>> well received. I did not think of recording them for YouTube though.
>>>
>>> Promoting within Apache and especially new projects would help IMO.
>>>
>>> I've also seen that folks do not know that Log4j 2 has a new modern
>>> architecture with an API. Better text on various sites like wikipedia and
>>> our own logging landing site might help.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> On Jun 13, 2016 7:56 AM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, another thing that would help is doing presentations on log4j.
>>>> Myself and a few others run a virtual java user group (and an in-person
>>>> one) in Illinois that accepts presenters from around the world for
>>>> instance. Then there's the London VirtualJUG as well which is super
>>>> popular. Plus any local JUGs.
>>>>
>>>> On 13 June 2016 at 09:54, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've noticed a big problem is that people don't realize you can use
>>>>> log4j-api the same way you would normally use slf4j-api. Plus it doesn't
>>>>> help that tons of Apache projects are using SLF4J which makes it a sort of
>>>>> tacit endorsement of it over log4j-api.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some attention on sites like Reddit or StackOverflow might help.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13 June 2016 at 09:52, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In spite of the fact that Log4j 2 has a very compelling story in
>>>>>> terms of feature set and performance, I get the impression that adoption 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> quite slow. I could be wrong, but how many open source projects use Log4j
>>>>>> 2? Or even how many Apache projects?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I propose we try to generate some ideas about what we can do to
>>>>>> increase our uptake. Some things I've been thinking about:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Rewrite the Wikipedia page on Log4j
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log4j>. It's mostly about Log4j 1.2
>>>>>> and mentions Log4j 2 at the bottom in a footnote. That needs to be the
>>>>>> other way around in my opinion. The Wikipedia Java logging framework
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_logging_framework> page is even
>>>>>> worse.
>>>>>> * The Apache Logging site <https://logging.apache.org/> has no
>>>>>> explicit mention that Log4j 1 is EOL.
>>>>>> * Only the top page on the Log4j 1 site
>>>>>> <https://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/> mentions that the project is
>>>>>> EOL, but it does so in two modest sentences that don't visually stick out
>>>>>> and are easily ignored. At the very least the download page needs a 
>>>>>> mention
>>>>>> of the EOL and a link to the Log4j 2 project, but it may be good to have 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> notification on every page.
>>>>>> * Can we get other people involved in evangelizing log4j 2? It would
>>>>>> be great if we can make more people enthusiastic so they write blog posts
>>>>>> or tutorials etc about Log4j 2.
>>>>>> * How can we incentivise people to convert their project to Log4j 2?
>>>>>> Maybe start a page on Projects Using Log4j 2 and mention people who did 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> conversion by name? Or some other way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remko
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>
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>>
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>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
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