And to make things worse, some Apache projects (in particular Zookeeper)
even uses SLF4J with a specific binding (Log4j 1 in this case) as a
dependency, which makes it a P.I.T.A. to use it with Log4j 2 (or with any
other logging framework such as Logback for that matter).

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've noticed a big problem is that people don't realize you can use
> log4j-api the same way you would normally use slf4j-api. Plus it doesn't
> help that tons of Apache projects are using SLF4J which makes it a sort of
> tacit endorsement of it over log4j-api.
>
> Some attention on sites like Reddit or StackOverflow might help.
>
> On 13 June 2016 at 09:52, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In spite of the fact that Log4j 2 has a very compelling story in terms of
>> feature set and performance, I get the impression that adoption is quite
>> slow. I could be wrong, but how many open source projects use Log4j 2? Or
>> even how many Apache projects?
>>
>> I propose we try to generate some ideas about what we can do to increase
>> our uptake. Some things I've been thinking about:
>>
>> * Rewrite the Wikipedia page on Log4j
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log4j>. It's mostly about Log4j 1.2 and
>> mentions Log4j 2 at the bottom in a footnote. That needs to be the other
>> way around in my opinion. The Wikipedia Java logging framework
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_logging_framework> page is even
>> worse.
>> * The Apache Logging site <https://logging.apache.org/> has no explicit
>> mention that Log4j 1 is EOL.
>> * Only the top page on the Log4j 1 site
>> <https://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/> mentions that the project is
>> EOL, but it does so in two modest sentences that don't visually stick out
>> and are easily ignored. At the very least the download page needs a mention
>> of the EOL and a link to the Log4j 2 project, but it may be good to have a
>> notification on every page.
>> * Can we get other people involved in evangelizing log4j 2? It would be
>> great if we can make more people enthusiastic so they write blog posts or
>> tutorials etc about Log4j 2.
>> * How can we incentivise people to convert their project to Log4j 2?
>> Maybe start a page on Projects Using Log4j 2 and mention people who did the
>> conversion by name? Or some other way?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Remko
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>



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