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> On 2016/06/23, at 3:55, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> Please let me know if http://wiki.apache.org/logging/ManagingTheWebSite 
> doesn’t have the answers you are looking for.
> 
> Ralph
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:30 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Monday, 13 June 2016, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In spite of the fact that Log4j 2 has a very compelling story in terms of 
>>>>> feature set and performance, I get the impression that adoption is quite 
>>>>> slow. I could be wrong, but how many open source projects use Log4j 2? Or 
>>>>> even how many Apache projects?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I propose we try to generate some ideas about what we can do to increase 
>>>>> our uptake. Some things I've been thinking about:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Rewrite the Wikipedia page on Log4j. It's mostly about Log4j 1.2 and 
>>>>> mentions Log4j 2 at the bottom in a footnote. That needs to be the other 
>>>>> way around in my opinion. The Wikipedia Java logging framework page is 
>>>>> even worse.
>>>>> * The Apache Logging site has no explicit mention that Log4j 1 is EOL.
>>>>> * Only the top page on the Log4j 1 site mentions that the project is EOL, 
>>>>> but it does so in two modest sentences that don't visually stick out and 
>>>>> are easily ignored. At the very least the download page needs a mention 
>>>>> of the EOL and a link to the Log4j 2 project, but it may be good to have 
>>>>> a notification on every page.  
>>>>  
>>>> How can I update the Log4j 1 site and the Apache Logging site?
>>> 
>>> Seriously, is there a release procedure to follow here or should I just ssh 
>>> into the logging.apache.org server and modify the HTML?
>> 
>> I thought all sites where done through SVN these days and a CMS, like Apache 
>> Commons does: https://commons.apache.org/site-publish.html
>> 
>> Gary
>>  
>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>> * Can we get other people involved in evangelizing log4j 2? It would be 
>>>>> great if we can make more people enthusiastic so they write blog posts or 
>>>>> tutorials etc about Log4j 2.
>>>>> * How can we incentivise people to convert their project to Log4j 2? 
>>>>> Maybe start a page on Projects Using Log4j 2 and mention people who did 
>>>>> the conversion by name? Or some other way?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Remko
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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