Please let me know if http://wiki.apache.org/logging/ManagingTheWebSite 
<http://wiki.apache.org/logging/ManagingTheWebSite> doesn’t have the answers 
you are looking for.

Ralph

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:30 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Monday, 13 June 2016, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> In spite of the fact that Log4j 2 has a very compelling story in terms of 
> feature set and performance, I get the impression that adoption is quite 
> slow. I could be wrong, but how many open source projects use Log4j 2? Or 
> even how many Apache projects?
> 
> I propose we try to generate some ideas about what we can do to increase our 
> uptake. Some things I've been thinking about:
> 
> * Rewrite the Wikipedia page on Log4j <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log4j>. 
> It's mostly about Log4j 1.2 and mentions Log4j 2 at the bottom in a footnote. 
> That needs to be the other way around in my opinion. The Wikipedia Java 
> logging framework <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_logging_framework> page 
> is even worse.
> * The Apache Logging site <https://logging.apache.org/> has no explicit 
> mention that Log4j 1 is EOL.
> * Only the top page on the Log4j 1 site 
> <https://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/> mentions that the project is EOL, but 
> it does so in two modest sentences that don't visually stick out and are 
> easily ignored. At the very least the download page needs a mention of the 
> EOL and a link to the Log4j 2 project, but it may be good to have a 
> notification on every page.  
>  
> How can I update the Log4j 1 site and the Apache Logging site?
> Seriously, is there a release procedure to follow here or should I just ssh 
> into the logging.apache.org <http://logging.apache.org/> server and modify 
> the HTML?
> 
> I thought all sites where done through SVN these days and a CMS, like Apache 
> Commons does: https://commons.apache.org/site-publish.html 
> <https://commons.apache.org/site-publish.html>
> 
> Gary
>  
>  
> 
>  
> * Can we get other people involved in evangelizing log4j 2? It would be great 
> if we can make more people enthusiastic so they write blog posts or tutorials 
> etc about Log4j 2.
> * How can we incentivise people to convert their project to Log4j 2? Maybe 
> start a page on Projects Using Log4j 2 and mention people who did the 
> conversion by name? Or some other way?
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Remko
> 
> 
> 
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