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> On 2016/07/03, at 5:01, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> Personally, I don’t think talks do all that much. Articles are great, but IMO 
> the best route is in trying to get other open source projects to use Log4j.  
+1

> Then people who start to use those other projects are forced to learn about 
> Log4j.
> 
> Ralph
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> If we could get a talk in to something big like JavaOne, that might help 
>> adoption, though I have no idea what kind of talks they accept from 
>> non-Oracle people (if any).
>> 
>> On 2 July 2016 at 08:57, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:52 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> In spite of the fact that Log4j 2 has a very compelling story in terms of 
>>>> feature set and performance, I get the impression that adoption is quite 
>>>> slow. I could be wrong, but how many open source projects use Log4j 2? Or 
>>>> even how many Apache projects?
>>>> 
>>>> I propose we try to generate some ideas about what we can do to increase 
>>>> our uptake. Some things I've been thinking about:
>>>> 
>>>> * Rewrite the Wikipedia page on Log4j. It's mostly about Log4j 1.2 and 
>>>> mentions Log4j 2 at the bottom in a footnote. That needs to be the other 
>>>> way around in my opinion. The Wikipedia Java logging framework page is 
>>>> even worse.
>>>> * The Apache Logging site has no explicit mention that Log4j 1 is EOL.
>>> 
>>> I updated the Apache Logging page to mention that Log4j 1 is EOL.
>>>  
>>>> * Only the top page on the Log4j 1 site mentions that the project is EOL, 
>>>> but it does so in two modest sentences that don't visually stick out and 
>>>> are easily ignored. At the very least the download page needs a mention of 
>>>> the EOL and a link to the Log4j 2 project, but it may be good to have a 
>>>> notification on every page.  
>>> 
>>> I added the EOL announcement to the top of all main pages in the Log4j 1 
>>> site.
>>>  
>>>> * Can we get other people involved in evangelizing log4j 2? It would be 
>>>> great if we can make more people enthusiastic so they write blog posts or 
>>>> tutorials etc about Log4j 2.
>>>> * How can we incentivise people to convert their project to Log4j 2? Maybe 
>>>> start a page on Projects Using Log4j 2 and mention people who did the 
>>>> conversion by name? Or some other way?
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Remko
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> 

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