On Tuesday, 14 June 2016, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Shall we add links to those on our site? > We should check that they actually work :-) but yes, that's a good idea. Maybe also add Logback Migration and JUL Migration pages.
> > On 13 June 2016 at 12:57, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ralph.go...@dslextreme.com');>> wrote: > >> http://log4j-props2xml.appspot.com/ >> https://github.com/jroyals/log4j-properties-converter/ >> >> https://github.com/mulesoft-labs/log4j2-migrator >> >> Ralph >> >> >> On Jun 13, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','boa...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >> What would be neat would be a tool like this one: >> http://logback.qos.ch/translator/ >> >> On 13 June 2016 at 12:08, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','garydgreg...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Ralph Goers < >>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ralph.go...@dslextreme.com');>> wrote: >>> >>>> The biggest complaints we seem to be getting are about the effort in >>>> transitioning from Log4j 1.x to 2. To be fair, they would have the same >>>> amount of effort to transition to anything. I believe someone created a >>>> tool to help convert Log4j 1.x configuration to Log4j 2 format. >>>> >>> >>> Note that I started an effort to read Log4j 1 configuration files, >>> please see org.apache.log4j.config.Log4j1ConfigurationFactory. It is >>> minimal but it is a start. My longer term plan is to use that to help >>> migrate my work app server from Log4j 1 to 2 with less friction from our >>> tools group and users. >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> >>>> At the very least we should link to that. If possible, we should >>>> consider incorporating it into our web site. >>>> >>>> What has been encouraging to me is the activity on Stack Overflow. As >>>> of right now I get 3,162 Log4j 2 questions vs 12,425 SLF4J questions and >>>> 6,581 Logback questions. Both SLF4J and Logback have been around far >>>> longer. I think our participation there has really helped. >>>> >>>> OTOH, the discussion on the Commons Dev list was rather disappointing. >>>> >>>> Ralph >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 13, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','remko.po...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>> >>>> In spite of the fact that Log4j 2 has a very compelling story in terms >>>> of feature set and performance, I get the impression that adoption is quite >>>> slow. I could be wrong, but how many open source projects use Log4j 2? Or >>>> even how many Apache projects? >>>> >>>> I propose we try to generate some ideas about what we can do to >>>> increase our uptake. Some things I've been thinking about: >>>> >>>> * Rewrite the Wikipedia page on Log4j >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log4j>. It's mostly about Log4j 1.2 and >>>> mentions Log4j 2 at the bottom in a footnote. That needs to be the other >>>> way around in my opinion. The Wikipedia Java logging framework >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_logging_framework> page is even >>>> worse. >>>> * The Apache Logging site <https://logging.apache.org/> has no >>>> explicit mention that Log4j 1 is EOL. >>>> * Only the top page on the Log4j 1 site >>>> <https://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/> mentions that the project is >>>> EOL, but it does so in two modest sentences that don't visually stick out >>>> and are easily ignored. At the very least the download page needs a mention >>>> of the EOL and a link to the Log4j 2 project, but it may be good to have a >>>> notification on every page. >>>> * Can we get other people involved in evangelizing log4j 2? It would be >>>> great if we can make more people enthusiastic so they write blog posts or >>>> tutorials etc about Log4j 2. >>>> * How can we incentivise people to convert their project to Log4j 2? >>>> Maybe start a page on Projects Using Log4j 2 and mention people who did the >>>> conversion by name? Or some other way? >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> Remko >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','garydgreg...@gmail.com');> | >>> ggreg...@apache.org >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ggreg...@apache.org');> >>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition >>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> >>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','boa...@gmail.com');>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','boa...@gmail.com');>> >
