What advantage is gained by declaring the interface Serializable? Ralph
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote: > > I don't think we should limit ourselves to what we add to the API just for > the sake of alternative implementations. > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com > <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: > I do not think you want to _force_ all implementation to be serializable. > Serialization is not a main feature of loggers, logging is. > > Gary > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com > <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote: > But if this is a feature that is useful for some users, why not fully > advertise it by making the Logger interface Serializable? > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com > <mailto:boa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > It's Serializable because there was a feature request for it. The jira ticket > is internal (reported by Gary), but I recall either another bug or a mailing > list post where the justification was so that serializable classes can still > use a Logger instance field (not everyone uses a static field for the Logger > for some reason). > > On 21 July 2016 at 11:32, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com > <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> wrote: > I asked myself the same question and I guess the answer is that Logger is > included in lots of classes, many of which are Serializable. It would be > easier for us to make AbstractLogger Serializable then for all the users to > mark it as transient and have to manually instantiate the Logger during > de-Serialization. > > Ralph > >> On Jul 21, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com >> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote: >> >> So then why is AbstractLogger, and our implementation in log4j-core, >> Serializable? >> >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> I do not think there is a way to know what folks are doing out there... >> >> Gary >> >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com >> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote: >> Are there any providers not using AbstractLogger? >> >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com >> <mailto:garydgreg...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Probably to leave the decision on whether to support serialization to each >> provider. >> >> Gary >> >> >> On Jul 21, 2016 3:14 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" <mikael.stal...@magine.com >> <mailto:mikael.stal...@magine.com>> wrote: >> AbstractLogger is Serializable, but the Logger interface is not. 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