I may have joined this game late, but when is the LPIC 3 due out?  Is
there anything I can do to assist in the development of the exam?

Thanks, Ryan McCain

>>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2006 at 12:29 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bryan J. Smith"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Etienne Goyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I disagree.  Samba is widely used indeed, but I see Linux mostly
>> deployed as an "Internet" platform (web, mail, etc) and low- level
>> network functions (firewall, VPN, etc).  By your logic, why not
>> make a mandatory exam on these subjects too then ?
> 
> Two things:  
> 
> 1.  We're *NOT* talking about general level 1 or level 2 anymore,
> we're talking level 3.  It's not "what you want to deal with on a
> single server," but "this is what enterprise expect out of a
> seasoned, _enterprise_ Linux administrator of 5+ years experience."
> 
> 2.  Who's pushing for LPIC- 3?  Industry.  Who is industry?  55% of
> exam revenues are from Japan.  Japan (e.g., the "six sisters") are
> heavily deploying Linux in the _data_center_.  That means you aren't
> just dealing with SOHO networking concepts or single, standalone
> web/file servers.
> 
> You have to worry about distributed authentication, single sign- on
> (SSO), network naming and objects, network credentials and exchange,
> non- repudiation and --  gasp --  no longer just DAC (Discretionary
> Access Controls) but _real_ MAC/RBAC (Mandatory Access Controls /
> Role- Based Access Controls).  And yes, like it or not, SELinux
> knowledge is a *HUGE* request.
> 
> Not the "fun" stuff anymore kiddies.
> _Real_ enterprise knowledge.
> 
> Don't agree?  At what point do you or do you not want LPIC- 3 to be
an
> "enterprise" cert that enterprise corporations value?  Or you just
> want LPIC- 3 to be "oh, I work on standalone Internet servers." 
Given
> the pay I make in the former versus most who work in the latter,
> sorry, the focus is right where I think it should be.
> 
> Wouldn't you like to join some of us in that latter 3%?  ;- >
> 
>> Also, I believe that Samba is very much a specialization.  The
>> skillset required for Samba administration is very specific to this
>> task, and not generally useful.  I would rather see core exam being
>> about generally useful stuff such as advanced networking, security,
>> etc.
> 
> There are currently (IIRc) six (6) planned level 3 exams.
> Samba and LPIC are the first two (2).
> You can be damned sure "security" is in there.  ;- >
> 
> No offense, but LPIC- 3 is about "put up or shut up."  If you want
to
> "put up," Matt will be glad to have you help --  heck --  even
_lead_
> the task analysis for another, future level 3 exam!
> 
> But understand that you aren't going to always agree with the focus.

> E.g., many people balk at SELinux, but it's going to be tackled,
> because industry wants that knowledge tested.
> 

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