Nobody would say you are not a linux profesional because you dont use vi since thats a personal preference, thats not what the previous comment said... what the previous comment said is that you are not a linux profesional or at least not one to take into consideration if you dont know vi to a certain level (which level is another discusion).
Regards 2016-04-05 22:10 GMT+02:00 Anselm Lingnau <anselm.ling...@linupfront.de>: > Julia Bütow wrote: > > > I have never seen a sysadmin, dev ops, software test engineer, developer > who > > cannot operate vi, this is why I am very surprised about this discussion. > > If I would have to hire a new sysadmin (no matter if junior or senior) > and > > realize he/she is not familiar with vi I would have serious doubts. > > There is much more to being a Linux professional than what editor one uses. > > Personally I know just enough vi to pass LPIC-1, simply because I've never > felt the need to do a deep dive into the guts of that particular dinosaur, > but > with 30+ years of experience as a Unix/Linux sysadmin, developer, > consultant > and instructor, as well as the author of several books and a widely > acclaimed > set of Linux training manuals, I would laugh in the face of anyone who > claimed > I wasn't a real Linux professional just because I don't use vi when I can > in > any way avoid it. > > > Ian's and Anselm's suggestions are a fair compromise, this will at least > > help beginneres to survive, even though I do not see a reason to reduce > the > > weight. Nevertheless, an important point is to keep the reputation of the > > certificates at it's high standard, removing content from certifications > > for professionals just because it is too complicated for beginners is not > > an option from my point of view. > > I don't think vi is “too complicated”. People can learn it if they have to. > The point is that today they no longer have to, and their available time is > more profitably spent learning other, more important things. > > For example, right now the LPI-101 exam contains 3 questions on vi and a > total > of 6 questions that deal with system startup, init systems and so on. The > objectives in question include System-V init, Upstart, systemd and a > grab-bag > of other things such as wall. These weights haven't changed significantly > since the widespread adoption of systemd, which is now the default in all > mainstream Linux distributions and brings with it a large swathe of > material > that wasn't on the exam before but is essential to know for the > administrators > of systemd-based hosts. In my opinion it would therefore make a lot of > sense > to downgrade vi and use the weight points thus gained to increase the > depth of > coverage of systemd. > > Anselm > -- > Anselm Lingnau … Linup Front GmbH (MAX21) … Linux- & > Open-Source-Schulungen > anselm.ling...@linupfront.de, +49(0)6151-9067-0, Fax -299, > www.linupfront.de > Robert-Koch-Str. 9, 64331 Weiterstadt Post: Postf. 100121, 64201 > Darmstadt DE > Sitz: Weiterstadt (AG Darmstadt, HRB7705) Geschf: Oliver Michel, Nils > Manegold > _______________________________________________ > lpi-discuss mailing list > lpi-discuss@lpi.org > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-discuss >
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