That's an interesting discussion! At least in my region, these titles
are often used in job advertisements. These titles have obviously become
commonplace.
And I have just noticed that the LPI still uses these titles on official
documents:
On a recently issued LPIC-2 certificate (PDF version) there is an emblem
on the top left, saying "Linux Engineer".
But it's good to know that these are no longer the official
designations. Thanks for the information!
Am 27.02.24 um 05:45 schrieb Ted Matsumura via lpi-examdev:
In the early 2000s to mid 2000s, I taught Windows Server, AD and
Networking (2000/2008/2008R2) at the college level. During that time
MS changed their Cert family names from MSCE where the E stood for
Engineer to MSCA A=Associate. It was due to the Engineer title. I
don't recall which country or industry was concerned about it, but
that was the reason we were given. The college was also a Pearson/Vue
test center, and the tests all had to be renamed.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 3:20 PM G. Matthew Rice via lpi-examdev
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:54 PM Anselm Lingnau via lpi-examdev
<[email protected]> wrote:
There are many places where you don't get to call yourself an
“engineer”
unless you are properly licensed as one (like, civil engineer,
electrical
engineer, etc.) and are a member of good standing of the
relevant professional
body. “Linux Engineers”, even with a certificate from the LPI,
are not proper
engineers in such places, and trying to pass yourself off as
one may have Dire
Consequences.
It's nice that IT folk frequently operate on an "it's easier to
ask forgiveness than permission" mentality. We never had any
complaints about the use of Linux Engineer from any regulatory
body. I do recall one licensed engineer from the USA emailed us
to express his displeasure, though. I mentioned the acrimony,
right? :)
There was a kerfuffle between the Professional Engineers of Canada
and Microsoft 10 years ago. It went back and forth but eventually
resolved as something along the lines of you need to be a licensed
professional engineer to call yourself a "Professional Engineer"
(in Canada, we put "P.Eng." on the end of our names) but using
non-regulated titles like "sanitation engineer" were beyond the
purview of the various provincial regulatory bodies.
Or they reached an impasse and everyone got bored of the subject.
It's been a while.
Regardless, there was agreement that Engineer isn't an appropriate
title for LPIC-2 so I don't expect that, if someone pitched it
again, the request would be successful.
Take care,
--matt
This applies to other titles that IT professionals might want
to use, too.
Many years ago some distant colleagues got into trouble for
calling their
company “Architects of VoIP”, when here in Germany, architects
are people who
design physical buildings and oversee their construction. The
real architects
are *very* protective of their turf – to a point where their
professional body
will come down like the proverbial ton of bricks on anyone who
has the
temerity to style themselves, e.g., a “software architect” on
their business
card and does not happen to have appropriate
building-architect credentials to
back that up. So, those “Architects of VoIP” quickly had to
get new
letterheads printed.
Anselm
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