On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 9:15 AM Ottavio Caruso via lpi-examdev < [email protected]> wrote:
> Am Di., 27. Feb. 2024 um 12:13 Uhr schrieb G. Matthew Rice <[email protected] > >: > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 4:12 AM Ottavio Caruso via lpi-examdev < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> The LPI should make a separate certification on how to bottom post. > >> That one would be actually useful. > > > > Hi Ottavio, > > I think that if someone has a comment that doesn't need context from > another email, then a short top post is acceptable. > > Also, a bottom post with a two line response and 70 lines of unhelpful > context, since you are changing the subject of the thread, should also be > avoided. I almost missed your content and was thinking that you had hit > Send before typing in your content. > > And this is exactly what happens when someone top-posts, instead of > bottom posting. > > I am too old for this list. I don't fit in, I grew up using computers when > there were no certifications and people stuck to some > "netiquette". > > See what I've done here? I have revealed my age. Nobody talks of > netiquette any more. Linux is the new Windows, alas. > O'Reilly [UseNet] posting guidelines (which also worked for e-Mail too ... read on) ... bottom posting, changing the subject, etc... But that was back in the days before Lotus and Microsoft on the Internet, let alone Google. Back then, using 1970s technology, we had actual, deterministic 'Threading' of subjects, both in SMTP (mail, primary correspondence) and NNTP (news -- which was used for forums), and *both* used 'Message ID' to track'n thread without issue. That's why changing the subject didn't matter, and was *encouraged,* so people hitting forums and archives of both mail/news (correspondence/forums) could see how a thread 'evolved' and find what they wanted. Bottom posting, as well as culling, ensured that only the relevant portions were captured. It worked very well. Then Lotus and Microsoft came along, and encouraged, even forced, top-posting. And then GMail came along in the 21st cewntury, and totally ignored Message-ID, and threaded on Subject. And the rest ... is pop culture history -- i.e., "You're doing it wrong" (we, the old guys, are allegedly 'doing it wrong'). Web archives have been destroyed and are a mess since, despite SMTP/NNTP-based tracking 'just working' for web archives too. It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World now. 1970s is stupid in the new mindset, even though it was 10x better. I use a mixture, and don't care what people say. -- Bryan J Smith - http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith E-mail: b.j.smith at ieee.org or me at bjsmith.me
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