On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 3:03 AM Stefan Lehnert via lpi-examdev < [email protected]> wrote:
> And I have just noticed that the LPI still uses these titles on official > documents: > On a recently issued LPIC-2 certificate (PDF version) there is an emblem > on the top left, saying "Linux Engineer". > Thanks for pointing this out, Stefan. I'll do another sweep of the templates we're using and what our printer is shipping out for the hard copy certificates. Dropping the titles wasn't due to any legal reasons and no one is going to mind if you self-title yourself. Just don't get LPIC-1 wrong. So many people spell it lpic1, lpic-1, lpic 1, lpi-1, etc. I compare the pain in changing logo, data points in footers, slogans and that sort of thing to the use of glitter. If you drop some glitter and clean it all up, you'll still be finding glitter for years. Take care, --matt But it's good to know that these are no longer the official > designations. Thanks for the information! > > > Am 27.02.24 um 05:45 schrieb Ted Matsumura via lpi-examdev: > > In the early 2000s to mid 2000s, I taught Windows Server, AD and > > Networking (2000/2008/2008R2) at the college level. During that time > > MS changed their Cert family names from MSCE where the E stood for > > Engineer to MSCA A=Associate. It was due to the Engineer title. I > > don't recall which country or industry was concerned about it, but > > that was the reason we were given. The college was also a Pearson/Vue > > test center, and the tests all had to be renamed. > > > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 3:20 PM G. Matthew Rice via lpi-examdev > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:54 PM Anselm Lingnau via lpi-examdev > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > There are many places where you don't get to call yourself an > > “engineer” > > unless you are properly licensed as one (like, civil engineer, > > electrical > > engineer, etc.) and are a member of good standing of the > > relevant professional > > body. “Linux Engineers”, even with a certificate from the LPI, > > are not proper > > engineers in such places, and trying to pass yourself off as > > one may have Dire > > Consequences. > > > > > > It's nice that IT folk frequently operate on an "it's easier to > > ask forgiveness than permission" mentality. We never had any > > complaints about the use of Linux Engineer from any regulatory > > body. I do recall one licensed engineer from the USA emailed us > > to express his displeasure, though. I mentioned the acrimony, > > right? :) > > > > There was a kerfuffle between the Professional Engineers of Canada > > and Microsoft 10 years ago. It went back and forth but eventually > > resolved as something along the lines of you need to be a licensed > > professional engineer to call yourself a "Professional Engineer" > > (in Canada, we put "P.Eng." on the end of our names) but using > > non-regulated titles like "sanitation engineer" were beyond the > > purview of the various provincial regulatory bodies. > > > > Or they reached an impasse and everyone got bored of the subject. > > It's been a while. > > > > Regardless, there was agreement that Engineer isn't an appropriate > > title for LPIC-2 so I don't expect that, if someone pitched it > > again, the request would be successful. > > > > Take care, > > --matt > > > > This applies to other titles that IT professionals might want > > to use, too. > > Many years ago some distant colleagues got into trouble for > > calling their > > company “Architects of VoIP”, when here in Germany, architects > > are people who > > design physical buildings and oversee their construction. The > > real architects > > are *very* protective of their turf – to a point where their > > professional body > > will come down like the proverbial ton of bricks on anyone who > > has the > > temerity to style themselves, e.g., a “software architect” on > > their business > > card and does not happen to have appropriate > > building-architect credentials to > > back that up. So, those “Architects of VoIP” quickly had to > > get new > > letterheads printed. > > > > Anselm > > -- > > Anselm Lingnau · [email protected] · > https://www.tuxcademy.org > > Freie Schulungsmaterialien für Linux und Open-Source-Software > > Free Training Materials for Linux and Open-Source Software > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lpi-examdev mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > > > > > > > > -- > > G. 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