Am Di., 27. Feb. 2024 um 04:45 Uhr schrieb Ted Matsumura via lpi-examdev <[email protected]>: > > In the early 2000s to mid 2000s, I taught Windows Server, AD and Networking > (2000/2008/2008R2) at the college level. During that time MS changed their > Cert family names from MSCE where the E stood for Engineer to MSCA > A=Associate. It was due to the Engineer title. I don't recall which country > or industry was concerned about it, but that was the reason we were given. > The college was also a Pearson/Vue test center, and the tests all had to be > renamed. > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 3:20 PM G. Matthew Rice via lpi-examdev > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:54 PM Anselm Lingnau via lpi-examdev >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> There are many places where you don't get to call yourself an “engineer” >>> unless you are properly licensed as one (like, civil engineer, electrical >>> engineer, etc.) and are a member of good standing of the relevant >>> professional >>> body. “Linux Engineers”, even with a certificate from the LPI, are not >>> proper >>> engineers in such places, and trying to pass yourself off as one may have >>> Dire >>> Consequences. >> >> >> It's nice that IT folk frequently operate on an "it's easier to ask >> forgiveness than permission" mentality. We never had any complaints about >> the use of Linux Engineer from any regulatory body. I do recall one >> licensed engineer from the USA emailed us to express his displeasure, >> though. I mentioned the acrimony, right? :) >> >> There was a kerfuffle between the Professional Engineers of Canada and >> Microsoft 10 years ago. It went back and forth but eventually resolved as >> something along the lines of you need to be a licensed professional engineer >> to call yourself a "Professional Engineer" (in Canada, we put "P.Eng." on >> the end of our names) but using non-regulated titles like "sanitation >> engineer" were beyond the purview of the various provincial regulatory >> bodies. >> >> Or they reached an impasse and everyone got bored of the subject. It's been >> a while. >> >> Regardless, there was agreement that Engineer isn't an appropriate title for >> LPIC-2 so I don't expect that, if someone pitched it again, the request >> would be successful. >> >> Take care, >> --matt >> >>> This applies to other titles that IT professionals might want to use, too. >>> Many years ago some distant colleagues got into trouble for calling their >>> company “Architects of VoIP”, when here in Germany, architects are people >>> who >>> design physical buildings and oversee their construction. The real >>> architects >>> are *very* protective of their turf – to a point where their professional >>> body >>> will come down like the proverbial ton of bricks on anyone who has the >>> temerity to style themselves, e.g., a “software architect” on their business >>> card and does not happen to have appropriate building-architect credentials >>> to >>> back that up. So, those “Architects of VoIP” quickly had to get new >>> letterheads printed. >>> >>> Anselm >>> -- >>> Anselm Lingnau · [email protected] · https://www.tuxcademy.org >>> Freie Schulungsmaterialien für Linux und Open-Source-Software >>> Free Training Materials for Linux and Open-Source Software >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> lpi-examdev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev >> >> >> >> -- >> G. Matthew Rice <[email protected]> gpg id: 0x17CF9077 >> Executive Director, Linux Professional Institute >> _______________________________________________ >> lpi-examdev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > > _______________________________________________ > lpi-examdev mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
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