Hello Dimitrios.

First, thanks for changing the subject. Yes, I'm talking about hands on exams.

Well, let me try to explain what I think about hands on exams.

1. L3 is to be the senior certification for LPI, so I think that to it
get more credibility, a hands on exam is perfect. (I'm not saying that
L1 and L2 has no credibility, or any other paper based exam).

2. We all know about braindumps, testkings, boson, etc, where some
people just memorize the answers.

3. Just for example, I was taking a look at Sans GSE certification,
which they did too much difficult to have just a little people
certified. I don't want that for LPIC3, but looking at GSE, you see
that people have to demonstrate really that they own what they are
being tested. It is what I see in a hands on exam. Just memorizing the
solution is not sufficient to put your hands there and make it
working.

4. RHCE, CCIE and others are successfull examples of hands on exams.
You see many people with CCNA (paper based with some hands on
simulator) and just a few with CCIE.

About your other question, we are talking about samba/ldap for now. I
think that they can run in any Linux OS, because what we should
validate is the "specialization" is working, not if it was installed
by rpm, tgz, dpkg and where the conf files is by default in each
distribution.

Sure about this question we need to think a little more if hands on is
the solution chosen.

Thinking more there are many others arguments for using hands on exam,
but first we need to know if LPI has interest in this type of exam. I
have seen this same thread in lpi-discuss mailing list before and LPI
always say, the price to make a infrastructure for hands on exam will
increase the exam price, there is no infra, etc.

Sorry for the long email and my english mistakes.

Regards,

Felipe Salum
Brazil World Cup Champion 2006 :)

On 6/13/06, Dimitrios Bogiatzoules, Product Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Felipe,


Felipe Salum said the following on 13.06.2006 17:35:
> Hi People.
>
> Just to start the thread for LPIC-3.
>
> It will be based in multiple-choice and fill in the blank questions
> until now.
> I would like to ask what do you think about all LPIC-3 exam series be
> based in lab exams ?
>
> I ask that because I see LPIC-3 as the top for LPI, and nothing better
> than the top certification close with a lab exam and no more paper
> based.

Regardless what I think about form based exams versus hands on exams:

What are your arguments that led you to the statement that an exam lab
is the best solution for L3? You probably mean hands on exams, exams
where candidates have to perform tasks on a Linux system.

We need a discussion that is based on facts and I'm curious to see what
others think about it.

BTW: As a distribution neutral certification, what would your choice be
if a L3 exam would be offered as hands on?

Again, my questions above do not mean that there is any decision already
taken. I only want to be sure that we are discussing on hard and not
soft facts...

Best regards,

Taki
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