On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 19:27 +0200, Dimitrios Bogiatzoules, LPI Product Developer wrote: > ross brunson said the following on 15.06.2006 16:15: > [...]
FYI, I didn't get Ross' message. > Ross, I appreciate your comments! Would you be so kind to extract the > information of yours and the other e-mails about this discussion to this > page? > https://group.lpi.org/cgi-bin/publicwiki/view/Examdev/ExamTypeDiscussion > We should document what we learn though this thread in the wiki so that > people that step in later can see do that easier than by reading tons of > e-mails... I'm sorry, but I _disagree_strongly_ with debating pros/cons "form v. hands-on" any further -- mailing list or forum. Why? 1. Narrow-minded -- it's more than 2 views 2. Subjective -- we aren't going to agree anytime soon 3. Distraction -- we have _other_ priorities And that's _before_ we even consider the cost, time, etc... In reality, watching a subjective "versus" debate between allegedly the "only two sides" is as frustrating as watching an election debate here in the US between Democrat and Republican candidates (I'm sure those in other countries have their similar parties). It's _never_ productive, it _ignores_ countless, _real_ issues (again, "narrow-minded" assumptions) and it is a _distraction_ from real goals at hand. With that said, we _have_ received several _sound_ ideas about _improving_ the existing testing process. These are already _proven_ with several, existing exams for computer-based testing. To review ... A. Reference booklet for exam B. Virtual and remote simulation "A" is used by professional examinations all-the-time. I took the EI (Engineering Intern) examination back in 1995 and I was given a reference manual. A copy before I took it for familiarity and a copy when I sat the exam. At level 3, we shouldn't be asking Bloom's Knowledge-level anyway -- and any "booklet" we come up with should and could be the _exact_same_ used across _all_ LPI exams. "B" is used by Novell for the CDE (Certified Directory Engineer) and CLE (Certified Linux Engineer) programs. It cuts the cost of infrastructure way down. It's still a high cost, but far more doable, and can use Prometric and View testing centers, or other partners for non-North American/European centers. I don't mean to be so "strong-headed" on this, but it seems like we are _not_ be "constructive" or "productive." We are arguing the format and other things and not looking at the real and _immediate_ goals in front of us. I'm not in total agreement that the "focus" is correct either. We're already trying to stuff more and more concepts -- like Windows desktop support -- into a _limited_ set of "advanced" level questions that are really designed to _specific_ and not "as broad" as LPI 100 or 200 exams. Leave those for a future "Desktop" exam that might be a 300 or other option. Focus on Samba services for now. With that said, I really don't like the concept of a "Samba" only exam. It should be on enterprise network file services, which includes Samba. That means I've got a Linux file server, and I have to service all sorts of clients, with all sorts of interoperability issues. That means the greater issue is bigger than just Samba (let alone just Windows clients), but how Samba services work with other services for _all_ types of clients. Same deal with "LDAP." Networking authentication and naming are very, very important details to directory services. There will be some overlap between authentication/directory/naming (e.g., LDAP) and file/print (e.g., Samba) already. We need to write those objectives and realize where that line is and do _not_ cross it. Point out where those objects are outside the focus and save them for _another_, possible exam focus. We have to be specific and "advanced" level without dropping into too broad of a discussion. Because from these objectives we have to write _tasks_. And the tasks _are_ the exam. ;-> -- Bryan J. Smith Professional, technical annoyance mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------- The existence of Linux has far more to do with the breakup of AT&T's monopoly than anything Microsoft has ever done. _______________________________________________ lpi-examdev mailing list [email protected] http://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
