Evan Blomquist wrote: > To re-state my position on LPIC-3, I think it's a waste of time and > resources that could better be spent shoring up levels 1 and 2,
Fernando Lozano wrote: > I don't think LPIC-3 is about getting a job, for this LPIC-1 should be > enough. But employees want to assest different skill levels, and I see > there are room for at least two levels above LPIC-2. But I don't have > real data to validate any of my claims. G. Matthew Rice wrote: > I think that it's more that they weren't looking for it. LPIC-3 is something > that has been promised for years now. This is just the fulfillment of that > promise. A developer cert has definitely been discussed. Just no promises. My attitude has been, from LinuxWorld Boston on-ward (based on the notes I took), is that we: 1. Get the initial, LPI 300 series task analysis completed and focus on the "most desired" objectives and 2 initial exams out for a 2007 release 2. After that, go back in 2007 and and rev LPI 100** and 200 objectives and exams to better match in a new 2008+ release [ **NOTE: That would include separating out the "non-technical" stuff from LPI 101/102 into the (previously discussed) "LinuxCore" (level 0) web cert. ] 3. And finally, in 2008, focus on more LPI 300 series objects and exams for those items done in previous task analysis that did not make it into the 2 initial exams After #3, we can go back and give "specialty" titles for passing each LPI 300 series exam (Enterprise Networking, Network File Services, Database Administration, Collaboration and Mail Services, etc...) as well as award a LPIC-4 "master" title for passing "n" (possibly all) LPI 300 series exams. All with *0* additional development. One thing that I really don't want to professionally hear is that LPIC-3 concepts I've been suggesting are "too hard" or "not applicable" to a function. If you want to explore services on their own more, then they should go into the LPIC-1 and LPIC-2 revisions. We have already covered NFS and Samba basics in LPIC-1 and LPIC-2. So for LPIC-3, in my strongest, professional opinion, we should be recovering them and then just "adding standalone depth" at LPIC-3. We should be showing how you build a Linux-centric _enterprise_network_ with those services -- _integrated_ and not just "oh, I don't care about that." The "I don't care about that" attitude is why I get a lot of my consulting work. We're not "Samba" administrators at LPIC-3, we're administering Network File Services across an enterprise. We do more than just connect Windows clients to Linux servers, but we show how to maintain network authentication/objects across Linux servers (even if our clients are 100% Windows). You can't do that without hitting on native UNIX/Linux authentication, objects, resource maps (e.g., automounter), filesystem level issues for network filesystems (and not just how Samba share are setup, or how you can map your Samba principals to ADS ones), etc... LPIC-3 is not about "one service" -- but services used in an enterprise. Evan Blomquist wrote: > If you can pass level 2 and you still don't have a job, your problem > is probably more of a personality disorder than a skill deficit. There are many people both with and without certs who don't have jobs or don't care to take the ones that are offered to them. I learned early on after I began consulting that some jobs are not worth taking. Evan Blomquist wrote: > I would also like to suggest that we rename the LPIC-3 exam as, 'The > Bryan J. Smith memorial' -- because I think his head is about to explode. Why? I'm just very strongly opinionated. If I didn't care about LPIC-3 development, I wouldn't post with such verocity. -- Bryan J. Smith Professional, technical annoyance mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------- The existence of Linux has far more to do with the breakup of AT&T's monopoly than anything Microsoft has ever done. _______________________________________________ lpi-examdev mailing list [email protected] http://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
