If you have so many PEs in an area that you must summarize then putting RR
outside of this area I would call a bad design.

Thx
R.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 11:37 Aijun Wang <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, Robert:
> How about when the RR locates in one area(for example, backbone area), but
> the PEs locates in the attached non-backbone area?
> In such scenario, the RR can only receive the summary prefixes of PEs.
>
> Aijun Wang
> China Telecom
>
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 17:59, Robert Raszuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> Aijun,
>
> [WAJ] X aims to how to withdraw the VPN prefixes with the mentioned
>> extended communities, right?
>>
>
> Extended communities have nothing to do with this discussion at all.
>
>
>> Y aims to how assist the RR get the prefix cost from one node that other
>> than the RR itself. Right?
>>
>
> No.
>
>
>> I think they all don’t answer the questions how to detect the failure of
>> BGP peer. Right? For this requirement, you can only depend on the BGP hello
>> timers, or BFD for BGP. Right?
>>
>
> Wrong. Let me explain.
>
> PEs peer with iBGP sessions to a pair of RR in a local area. In the vast
> majority of cases those RRs are IGP nodes. If so in exactly the same way as
> ABRs, also RRs will be receiving local area link state flooding about PEs
> going down.
>
> That along with next hop tracking (local feature) will trigger event
> driven service path invalidation followed by immediate withdrawal. Note
> that those withdraws will be propagated via one or max two RR hops before
> reaching the destination PE(s). That propagation speed is in
> milliseconds when measured with solid BGP implementation. It can be much
> faster then flooding via 10s of IGP nodes across two areas.
>
> If RRs are running on x86 blades they do not need to be IGP nodes, but
> nothing stops them from being passive IGP listeners.
>
> That is how you detect the failures local to your areas on the BGP RRs.
> The trigger is exactly the same for RRs as is for ABRs. Has been done and
> deployed for decades now and works perfectly fine.
>
>
>
>> [WAJ] For SRv6 tunnel services, which layer control? How?
>>
>
> Something runs over those tunnels right ? If not we have no issue anyway
> as there is no service to be protected or :).
>
> Thx,
> R.
>
>
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