Hi Dirk,

Thanks again for your review and confirmation.

Thanks,
Ketan


On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 4:31 PM Goethals, Dirk (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <
dirk.goeth...@nokia.com> wrote:

> Hi Ketan,
>
> The update looks good to me.
>
> Thx,
>
> Dirk
>
>
>
> *From:* Lsr <lsr-boun...@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Ketan Talaulikar
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2022 8:02 PM
> *To:* Acee Lindem (acee) <a...@cisco.com>
> *Cc:* lsr <lsr@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensi...@ietf.org;
> Goethals, Dirk (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <dirk.goeth...@nokia.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for "OSPFv3 Extensions for
> SRv6" - draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensions-06.txt (Corrected Address)
>
>
>
> Hi Acee/Dirk,
>
>
>
> The updated version posted earlier today addresses Dirk's comments and was
> announced to the LSR WG list:
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/Tv0_jfa05wT1YWd6PG00eFrWXZQ/
>
>
>
> Please let me know if there are any further changes/updates pending.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ketan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 9:08 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <a...@cisco.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ketan,
>
>
>
> *From: *Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.i...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:35 AM
> *To: *Acee Lindem <a...@cisco.com>
> *Cc: *lsr <lsr@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensi...@ietf.org"
> <draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensi...@ietf.org>, "Goethals, Dirk (Nokia
> - BE/Antwerp)" <dirk.goeth...@nokia.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for "OSPFv3 Extensions for
> SRv6" - draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensions-06.txt (Corrected Address)
>
>
>
> Hi Acee,
>
>
>
> The routing for anycast is transparent but there are features and use
> cases where the knowledge of Anycast is required or helpful. I don't have
> all the draft pointers, but there have been presentations in SPRING and
> RTGWG WGs on redundancy and protection features that leverage anycast.
>
>
>
> I think we’re agreeing, I’ve seen the same use case presentations and it
> is, IMO, a far better usage than prefix unreachability 😉
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Acee
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ketan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 8:44 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <a...@cisco.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ketan,
>
>
>
> *From: *Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.i...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:04 AM
> *To: *Acee Lindem <a...@cisco.com>
> *Cc: *lsr <lsr@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensi...@ietf.org"
> <draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensi...@ietf.org>, "Goethals, Dirk (Nokia
> - BE/Antwerp)" <dirk.goeth...@nokia.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for "OSPFv3 Extensions for
> SRv6" - draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensions-06.txt (Corrected Address)
>
>
>
> Hi Acee,
>
>
>
> Please check inline below.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 8:06 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <a...@cisco.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ketan,
>
>
>
> *From: *Lsr <lsr-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Ketan Talaulikar <
> ketant.i...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:48 AM
> *To: *Acee Lindem <a...@cisco.com>
> *Cc: *lsr <lsr@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensi...@ietf.org"
> <draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensi...@ietf.org>, "Goethals, Dirk (Nokia
> - BE/Antwerp)" <dirk.goeth...@nokia.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for "OSPFv3 Extensions for
> SRv6" - draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensions-06.txt (Corrected Address)
>
>
>
> Hello Acee/All,
>
>
>
> There has not been any further comment/feedback on the point that Dirk
> brought up in the thread below:
>
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/_4HcJEsteNQxjxuot1uLdoXeH6s/
>
>
>
> I want to point out that not just the LA-flag, but also the P-flag is
> required for propagation of the SRv6 Locator LSA across NSSA.
>
>
>
> Perhaps the best option available to us is to replace the "Flags" field in
> the SRv6 Locator TLV (refer to
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensions-06#section-6.1)
> with the "PrefixOptions" field that is present in all the OSPFv3 prefix
> reachability advertisements in RFC5340/8362. This will also bring a nice
> consistency for OSPFv3 even though some flags are unused in the SRv6
> context.
>
>
>
> We only have 1 bit left -
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/ospfv3-parameters/ospfv3-parameters.xhtml#ospfv3-parameters-4
> So, perhaps we need to add the PrefixOptions using the existing registry
> and we need a new field and registry that could be advertised in Extended
> LSAs.
>
>
>
> KT> This is the idea behind
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-lsr-anycast-flag/ -
> hopefully, we can bring it up for WG adoption soon. I believe Anycast is a
> strong enough use case to consume the remaining unused bit and the
> introduction of a new extensible Flags sub-TLV should take care of future
> extensions as proposed in the aforementioned individual draft.
>
>
>
> Is this the first introduction of the N flag for OSPFv3 in any LSA? I
> don’t see it in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8666/
>
>
>
> KT> N flag in PrefixOptions came via RFC8362 and so RFC8666 didn't have to
> do anything about it. Refer
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/ospfv3-parameters/ospfv3-parameters.xhtml#ospfv3-parameters-4
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok – I thought I remembered the N-Flag but I didn’t look close enough at
> the existing IANA assignments. I agree we can use the add the Anycast Bit
> to the Prefix Options. Although it seems to negate the fact that anycast
> can be routed transparently, there are enough drafts presenting use cases
> as to why it is needed.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Acee
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Additionally, we can use the remaining bit available for AC-flag (anycast)
> similar to the ISIS SRv6 spec.
>
>
>
> Note that this change would not be backward compatible with the current
> spec since the bit positions are moving.
>
>
>
> Looking for feedback/input from the WG on this proposed change.
>
>
>
> I think we’d just need to get feedback from Dirk (who made the comment
> that initiated this) and the co-authors. Of course, anyone with know of
> OSPFv3 SRv6 can comment.
>
>
>
> KT> I did discuss offline with Dirk and we agreed on the necessity for the
> LA and P flags for OSPFv3 SRv6. We have not discussed the approach of using
> PrefixOptions instead of the Flags field though and Dirk is now on PTO. I
> hope others can share their views on the PrefixOptions approach.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ketan
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Acee
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ketan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 10:47 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <a...@cisco.com>
> wrote:
>
> As promised in today’s LSR WG meeting, this begins a 3 week WG Last Call,
> ending on August 19th, 2022, for draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensions. The
> extra week is to account for PIST (Post-IETF Stress Syndrome). The
> corresponding IS-IS draft is already on the RFC Queue and there are
> implementations.
>
>
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensions/
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Acee & Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
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