More info about my setup:

Standard 3.0 LTSP, not k12ltsp
vmlinuz-2.4.22-ltsp-1
NFS swap off
XSERVER = auto
Icewm
Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice1.1.1, DOSEMU (accounting app.), Acrobat



I've documented 2 freezes on a Compaq Evo t30 with 128MB.

Other instances were crashes followed by login prompt. These occured on stripped-down PCs.



The first big differences so far are LTSP version and kernel.


c





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Jeff,

I've got a setup of 26 Jammin-125's, using LTSP-4.0, and the customer hasn't reported any crashing at all.

I figured that no news was good news, but I decided
to call them, and ask specifically how they are doing,
and there have been NO client crashes.

The kernel they are using is vmlinuz-2.4.24-ltsp-1.

They are NOT using NFS Swap.

Their system is RHEL 3.0 with standard LTSP-4 added on.

I feel like the oddball here, because lots of others are having
problems that i'm just not seeing with my customers.

The users are running Icewm, Mozilla and Xterm.  Not much else.

So, I know that it is at least possible to to have a stable environment with LTSP-4 and Jammin-125's.

Now, the question is, what's the difference between what you (and others) are doing, and what my customers are doing.

Usually, when faced with a problem like this, I like to collect
data.  99% of the time, if you collect enough data, the patterns
will emerge, and the cause will become obvious.  Then, once we
know the cause, coming up with a solution becomes much easier.

Here's the things I think we should look at:

  o Version of LTSP.  I'm using standard LTSP-4.0, not k12ltsp.
  o Version of the kernel.  I'm using 2.4.24-ltsp-1.
  o NFS-Swap.  It's off for my customers.
  o Xserver.  I'm using setting XSERVER = auto
  o Window mgr/Desktop environment.  I'm running Icewm.
  o Applications.  Mozilla and Xterm.

Also, can you describe the failure ?

Is the machine locking up?
Is the Xserver just crashing, and going back to the login
prompt ?

If it's the latter, i'd suspect an Xserver problem.  In which case,
it might be good to try LTSP-4.1, which uses Xorg, rather than
XFree86.

If you and others can get back to me, with information about your setup,
as it compares with mine, maybe we can start to get to the bottom
of this.

Thanks,

Jim McQuillan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Jeff Nelson wrote:


I keep having lots of crashes, too. Funny enough, it only happens on my thin
clients (Jammin 125's), not several stations that actually boot their own
Linux and simply query the X server, which makes me think it might be
something in the LTSP kernel.


I enabled NFS swap, and that helped for a while, and I also changed the gdm
ping timeout, which seemed to make a bit of a difference, but nothing has made
the problem go away.


These constant crashes have been the situation for over six months. I tried
checking whether it was RAM leakage by telnetting to the client, but never
came up with anything at all.


K12LTSP 4.0.1 (Fedora Core 1, LTSP 4.0)
Athlon XP 3000
2 GB DDR, 512MB swap (almost never uses much swap)
9 workstations (incl 6 Jammin 125's)
2 60GB drives (but no RAID)
DFI Lanparty KT400A motherboard
10/100 3Com switch

Jeff Nelson



I know this has been discussed before, but I'm not sure there was any resolution. I've had a workstation crash again recently.

Is there anyone that does NOT have this problem?

What is different with those that do have this problem and those who do not?

me:
LTSP 3.0
RH 9
Athlon XP 1700
1GB DDR, 1GB swap
Via mobo
Raid 1 IDE
10 workstations, 32MB+ RAM
100Mbps switched
4 workstations attached via ~10Mbps (remote)
NFS swap = N (one ws = Y)

c

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